Much like the debate of Nuclear and Renewables, people keep phrasing this like its an either/or debate, when the reality is both are necessary.

Remember, the world doesn’t revolve around the US.

This is also a way for oil companies to keep selling natural gas while pretending they’re not selling natural gas.

You really can’t handwave the efficiency problem like that. Japan’s H2 supply is “grey” hydrogen, sourced from fossil fuels (typically SMR). Last time I ran the numbers, a last-gen Mirai had the same CO2/mi as a CNG Civic, and cost several times more per mile. But even if we finally transition to “green” hydrogen, the …

I get the feeling that fuel cell will make a LOT of sense for companies with large fleets that all come back to the same spot every day. Taxis, last-mile shippers, postal fleets, mass transit... Anyone who can get a better deal buying bulk hydrogen vs electricity. 

It starts to make a lot more sense on cars for consumers that want to take road trips. Every FCEV I’ve seen has at least a +300 mile range and refueling takes less than 5 minutes, so they definitely seem like a more viable option than most BEVs in that aspect.

Efficiency wouldn’t matter if it was still clean, had sufficient range, and fuel was cheap. It is clean. It has better range than any BEV currently sold. It has the advantage of significantly faster refueling than BEVs. It isn’t cheap. If they can work out the how to bring the cost of fuel down, it has the potential…

In the long run, FCEVs will win solely because of the need for rapid refuel outside major urban areas. Any investment in EVs only furthers the FCEV as well. Drop the FCEV into a Tacoma and call it a day at this point.

Toyota is a fairly conservative company. I can’t imagine them putting R&D money into something like this without having some assurance that the investment is going to pay off. I generally see Toyota as well run. 

It seems like this technology will find a good fit with commercial trucking.

Highly amused by all the idiots who seem to think that "carbon neutral" (his words not mine) is somehow worse than literally pumping huge amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Even more amused by the idea that electricity can only come from coal and nuclear... 

I miss they days when everyone was entitled to their opinion, but that facts were facts.  Now everyone is entitled to their own reality.

If the EV horsepower wars get more people into EVs then why should they stop? Not everyone is OK driving a glorified gold cart.

No one’s talking about the fact that the new, all-electric Porsche Taycan delivers the equivalent of 90 miles per gallon in the city.

Tesla: Fast, sleek, sexy. Doesn’t look like a hippy would drive it.

And Porsche cranked out some of the biggest inline-fours ever made for the 944

Hard pass. My Porsche engine still runs! I’ve even got a spare 944 engine sitting around as a spare if the worst-case scenario happens. I really do like that big ol’ I4.

You’re allowed to put anything into Miata.

I think it’s only a heresy if the original engine is pristine. Given that a lot of classics’ engines are no longer produced and parts are scarce, if the original engine is busted or mistreated to a certain extent, an LS (or any other modern engine) swap may actually prolong the car’s life, instead of collecting dust…

It’s like the tardis...