And apparently Wells testified that he never mentioned to Brady that not turning over the phone would be bad, in and of itself. So Wells essentially said, I don’t need it, then said wait, you could provide it, though it’s totes up to you, and nothing bad will happen if you don’t? And in theory Brady destroyed the…

Honest question...wasn’t he told by Wells that they didn’t need the phone, rather than being “asked to provide it”?