lol ok

I guess it was some bottom to tops?

I actually prefer / was pleasantly surprised that her personality remains similar pre- and post-, that her main shift wasn't her sense of humor or style but the specific ways in which she interacts with others (in more logistic terms rather than the "character" of her interactions). If that makes sense.

FAR better. and way less godawful moralizing and damsel in distressing. (i liked it, but… it had some problems.) and just a more interesting season storyline generally.

As far as Shelby's love life, I am team neither of them, but yikes! Clayton is skeevy

Just one point— he punched him before the whole announcements deal, so that wasn't why they sided with Tandy-Phil.

The "sponsored by" ad that ran before this episode on Hulu was from Josh Cellars (in one of those spots where they just say "Josh" a lot in fifteen seconds), and I flipped out a little bit. Do they have some sort of special Josh-centric deal together?

$130 per, and I think they got around 15 in a day, but yeah, that's still just shy of $2,000. A little more than 10 5-day weeks of that would get you $100,000.

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying here. The committee meeting happened after they interviewed her. During that, if she had played to their racist expectations of what it meant to grow up in Baltimore, she could have swayed them to her side. Yes, Baltimore was not a requirement—but they were looking for…

I guess I see it as— they definitely had setup in there for that view, but the monologue at the end is weighted a lot more for me, because it's both the climax of their interaction and the final word on it (at least in this episode).

Well, I disagree— I was saying that she did have a choice to become complicit with her oppression in a similar way in order to get the job: they all gave her openings to talk about her "hardships in Baltimore," which very very often sway employers to hire people with less-than-their-ideal resumes. She didn't, because…

They have been saying that shit about Lyman for a while. But they could totally fire him, he has sexually assaulted people at work.

Yeah— other than Howard, none of it was explicit, but it certainly wasn't subtle.

Right, and I also get her point, but here where she's talking about submitting to someone's oppression and getting the job or leaving, you could argue that the situation here falls along those same lines. What I mean is this: for instance, if she played into their assumptions about her being black from Baltimore, it's…

And in fact what I saw convinced me they wrote Monica as if her being black meant she experienced only racism, which really bothered me, and sounds like from your comment would bother you too. It seemed like there was setup for that in the montage of her interviews and subsequent conversations with Diane, but then…

Riiiight except you don't choose to experience sexism any more than you choose to experience racism, which seems like something Monica is savvy enough to know, at the intersection of both and with that level of dedication to pointing out their bullshit (i.e. a youtube secret recording video and chewing people out who…

They definitely were guilty of some racist shit there, Diane certainly included, but pretending sexism is a choice women make (couched in pretty blatantly misogynistic terms) is NOT the best way to make that argument.

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It was really weird how when she was telling Diane that their histories/experiences with oppression are different, the way she did it was by saying "if you chose to lie on your back to get a job, that's on you." Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

And the argument for "he didn't rape her" doesn't? Are you kidding? To be frank, I'm choosing at least at this point to read it as he didn't, but all the stuff they showed him doing that he keeps repeating (other than recording her and falling asleep) was the stuff before she woke up that day, so that stuff wouldn't…