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And you will never forget.

It's actually based on the Odyssey unibody, and I believe it has a higher payload rating than my Frontier.

The EPA considers the Ridgeline a "standard truck", like the F150. The Frontier, Colorado, and Tacoma are classified as "small trucks".

"And Ridgeline is not a truck by any standard- its rear IFS for heck's sake."

Funny that they call the Ridgeline a "trucklet", considering it's bigger than my "mid-sized" Frontier crew cab.

I just checked, you can get a regular cab, 8' box, Tradesman with the EcoDiesel for less than $30k.

You can get the EcoDiesel in the Tradesman, they don't limit it to the upper trims like they do with the GC.

I'm in a similar boat, the route to work that nets the best gas mileage is not the most direct. But (for me) it's worth it, because the shortest route has a ton of traffic lights, and it's crowded. I take the longer way and can just put my cruise on 62mph and relax.

The turning radius is shocking, I have a circle in my driveway to turn around... and if I don't hit it just right, I have to do a 3-point.

Here's the window sticker from a regular cab, Hemi, 8-speed...

You are wrong, do you really want me to stop at the dealer today and prove it? Because I will, even though the EPA and RAM both list the numbers online.

Wow, can't admit when your wrong?

Damn, my '14 Frontier 4.0 (5-speed auto) averages 19mpg in mixed driving, but I've never seen better than 21-22mpg on highway trips at 70-80mph.

When I had my '12 Focus (rated @ 36mpg hwy) I filled it up and put the cruise control at 100km/h... after a hundred km or so my mileage was sitting at close to 50mpg average.

My father-in-law has a 2wd super crew Lariat with the 5.4, on 17's, he averages 17-21mpg. I personally drove his truck when he was picking up his Miata, couple hundred miles round-trip, 55mph most of the way, and it averaged 20mpg. Are you hand calculating or going off the trip computer?

I filled up my 4.0 Frontier today, and it averaged a little over 20mpg with a mix of city and highway. Mid sized trucks have been providing savings before the Colorado was announced.

And they almost always err on the optimistic side.

In the RAM? I think not.