That is my point. Yes the Russians hacked and released the information, but the DNC wrote it, so it is a little bold for the DNC to be whining about the Russians now.

Um...... Didn’t the Russians just prove why this is an issue? And the sec state issue is different, because she was using her crackberry IN RUSSIA.

You are assuming with zero evidence that the DNC data contained unflattering information, and the entire point of email gate was that she wasn’t supposed to be using private servers for government business, because the government security system was not in place. Good idea, just proved by the Russians.

Hey wait a minute.... I’m no fan of Trump OR Hillary, but:

The real ones have already been there.

Major escalation of events I would say. If it isn’t resolved swiftly, prepare to see some significant tension to develop very quickly.

Good god, your dinosaur ships are all museums and nothing like that will ever sail again.

TASMs didn’t work, that’s why they didcontinued them. What else does your blind dinosaur have?

It is when the MRE owns you!

Ah those were the days!

No I didn’t. That is the system.

Not to mention the crying from the guys stuck with Franks and beans

Our system is better. MRE’s at battle stations. Take all the time you want to savor the flavor!

And how would they aim the harpoons (tomahawks are land attack), and when launched, what would the harpoon home in on (the larger chaff cloud), and even if, how would the harpoon survive the ESSM’s?

And the only thing the Iowa would do in your hypothetical naval cage match is pop off broadsides at the Zumwalts air launched chaff plumes.

You couldn’t be more wrong. The purpose of the Sec Def is to make our military formidable and ready. Mattis is the best choice in a long time for the job.

The guns are not for surface combat, they are for Naval Gunfire Support for the Marines, for which there still is a viable mission requirement.

First of how, when did the Zumwalt not float, and second, despite your wailing and Lamentations, the Zumwalt is the most powerful surface combatant every built.

No it wouldn’t. In addition to the fact that the Iowas would need tugboats, pumps and a hundred retired guys to get underway, the Zoomies will still out shoot their range even with these rounds

And the chair force is there to protect them!