Single year models are BAD ideas. And you can’t get the stick on the new ones either. I agree on the jeep part though - there should be a simpler model. As a whole, the Wrangler has gotten too expensive; it’s a toy for a lot of us, but it costs as much as a well equipped do-anything-and-everything truck, SUV, or car…

I don’t honestly give a rats rear about the size on the inside. I regularly daily an NB Miata at 6'1" - it’s just me and sometimes the wife, so why do I need extra space? :-P The size overall? That matters- I drive all the time into the city and into tiny parking garages. It matters a LOT. My wrangler was a 2-door.

I had an 07 SV 4x4 that was perfect.  I traded it in on a cheap beater because I was doing 95% of my miles (even in the winter) on a motorcycle, and thought I’d drop the car payment and just have something cheap for weather.  This ended up being a poor idea in the long run (bikes don’t take well to blizzards, and…

I had a policy when I was younger of “I’ll always do it once so I know how, then pay if it makes more sense”.  8 hours of scraping old gasket material off a 20 year old GM diff cover later, I chucked that idea (all I had was a putty knife, sue me). 

recirculating ball steering coming from rack and pinion will feel that way.  You get used to it, but it is a DRASTIC change if you don’t expect it.

I’m the target audience for this truck... and I’m probably buying a Tacoma instead (or a lightly used Pro-4X Frontier, because no reason to buy one of those new). I like jeep (and miss the 2016 Wrangler Sport I had to give up), have had several. I like mid-size trucks (had an 07 Frontier I bought new that I also…

It’s adorable, I even like the design... I’m just not sure how many people will pick EVs yet for a “second” car commuter vs something purely for “fun” - that’s a question that I can’t answer, and I’m really curious to see what history says about it.

I suspect they assumed it’d be mostly surface streets; less highway, more city? 

Base model Escape now! /me looks at the other review on the front page.

Or, in my experience, either have a rolling lease on an AMG/M5/etc as it keeps them sane, or have the sleeper modified version of one of those they picked up CPO. Never the mid-level though. It’s either the 98 Camry, or the Absurdmobile.

Ecoboost mustang. 

CVT only too. 

You know, I never thought about those tones till now - they were just part of the audio. My mind is somewhat blown now, and I’m being nostalgic about old space documentaries.

I live at 7000 ft. Turbos are at the right hand of God for us up here; power wins over throttle response just because there’s no power without it :( The only alternative is revs, because at least then it’s ~fun~ to zing it around, even though you’re slow (and trust me, 150HP in a BRZ is REALLY slow). Middling N/A…

Thirded, which goes back to my original point when these came out- a 200HP small turbo would have been fine (and solved the torque problem), or something that REALLY liked to rev (F22 from the S2k is a good example, or the Honda B16/etc) and a smoother torque curve (not asking for more, just better) and the problem…

Looks like that, I’ll buy one.  New even.  I like! 

Preaching to the choir. In the last 15 years, NEW, I’ve bought an SVT Focus (stick), Frontier SV (Stick), ZL1 Camaro (stick, special ordered), and Wrangler (stick). Almost every 4 years like clockwork. I’ve also bought a CPO GTI (stick) and CPO M550 (automatic, because work and it didn’t come in a stick) and a CPO G37…

We IT people, especially field people, seem to love what we do.  I’m on the architecture side of the same gig, used to cover the western US (and before that internationally), and I’m the same way - I love it.  Preach it.  

Keep looking. I was told for years “don’t do what you love, you’ll learn to hate it”, and I have to disagree. My job is also my main hobby. I’m very good at it. I love it. I wake up every day with what I consider the Best Damn Job in the World (tm) - but it’s my passion and dream, and while there are occasionally…

A Civic SI with a DCT is just another automatic Civic. It’s faster? So what - it’s still pretty slow. These cars are not about the raw performance numbers.