It’s adorable, I even like the design... I’m just not sure how many people will pick EVs yet for a “second” car commuter vs something purely for “fun” - that’s a question that I can’t answer, and I’m really curious to see what history says about it.

I suspect they assumed it’d be mostly surface streets; less highway, more city? 

Base model Escape now! /me looks at the other review on the front page.

Or, in my experience, either have a rolling lease on an AMG/M5/etc as it keeps them sane, or have the sleeper modified version of one of those they picked up CPO. Never the mid-level though. It’s either the 98 Camry, or the Absurdmobile.

Ecoboost mustang. 

CVT only too. 

You know, I never thought about those tones till now - they were just part of the audio. My mind is somewhat blown now, and I’m being nostalgic about old space documentaries.

I live at 7000 ft. Turbos are at the right hand of God for us up here; power wins over throttle response just because there’s no power without it :( The only alternative is revs, because at least then it’s ~fun~ to zing it around, even though you’re slow (and trust me, 150HP in a BRZ is REALLY slow). Middling N/A…

Thirded, which goes back to my original point when these came out- a 200HP small turbo would have been fine (and solved the torque problem), or something that REALLY liked to rev (F22 from the S2k is a good example, or the Honda B16/etc) and a smoother torque curve (not asking for more, just better) and the problem…

Looks like that, I’ll buy one.  New even.  I like! 

Preaching to the choir. In the last 15 years, NEW, I’ve bought an SVT Focus (stick), Frontier SV (Stick), ZL1 Camaro (stick, special ordered), and Wrangler (stick). Almost every 4 years like clockwork. I’ve also bought a CPO GTI (stick) and CPO M550 (automatic, because work and it didn’t come in a stick) and a CPO G37…

We IT people, especially field people, seem to love what we do.  I’m on the architecture side of the same gig, used to cover the western US (and before that internationally), and I’m the same way - I love it.  Preach it.  

Keep looking. I was told for years “don’t do what you love, you’ll learn to hate it”, and I have to disagree. My job is also my main hobby. I’m very good at it. I love it. I wake up every day with what I consider the Best Damn Job in the World (tm) - but it’s my passion and dream, and while there are occasionally…

A Civic SI with a DCT is just another automatic Civic. It’s faster? So what - it’s still pretty slow. These cars are not about the raw performance numbers.

Apparently they will, since the SI and Type-R are manual-only. And the Focus/Fiesta ST were (as was the RS). In fact, that’s what you’re complaining about - that they don’t put an automatic of some kind in what’s supposed to be a sports compact car.

Major difference in size and weight there, plus RWD vs FWD, 4 doors as an option, etc.  It’s a good point if all you’re looking for is “sporty car”, but if you’re looking for more practicality or have significant winter concerns, the Civic is going to be potentially far more useful. 

Quite a bit, depending on what you’re looking for and need.  Sport compact != small sports car. 

While I happen to agree, significantly different power and handling numbers there than a small light sports coupe/compact like the SI. I don’t find the GTI with the DSG all that engaging, but I loved the manual one I had. Small/light/FWD isn’t as fun for me with a DSG, but I absolutely plan on buying a C8 with one.

Buy an ILX then?  Or just put the 1.5 in the ILX?  I’d argue the latter is what they should do more. 

Maybe it’s time to just give up on this one.  Let them die.  We had some good times, but it’s time to let go and move on.