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Sure. But the charger lacks AWD in any V8 trim - and the V6 AWD charger is not even remotely fun or interesting.

You cannot, however, get the Charger with a decent engine and AWD - the Pentastar is really overwhelmed by the AWD 300/Charger chassis.

From my perspective it is; those are table stakes. I test drove one, I was unimpressed. I’m not buying a car without a sunroof or modern headlights, and I sure as heck ain’t doing it with a base model stereo- I spend too much time in my car for that. I did also drive the GT model with the auto, and the 3GT at the same

The touring 6 is pretty base model.

The sunroof adds some weight. Leather and HID are negligible. Speakers? Come on...

Sunroof, HID, sound system are all deal breakers for me. The wheels I can forget. Leather is almost a deal breaker.

Ontario? You’re Canadian. Not American.

Yeah, but the car’s not really that special. I drove one - the engine just wasn’t all that special; it just didn’t feel as playful as the older ones (I almost got a 2004 myself; ended up with a deal on a 2004 SVT Focus I couldn’t pass up instead). Just... like it didn’t know what it wanted to be - fun and playful, or

Only on the base model with it though. Because Mazda secretly hates us.

$5 the turbo is with the auto only, just because Mazda. Otherwise I’d be seriously interested. I loved the 6 when I drove it, but a down option model (to get the stick) and low power (density altitude sucks), were killer. I really wanted to like it more; that chassis was great

The G35 sedan definitely hasn’t aged well. Anywhere. The Coupe... is still pretty good. Both G37 models are solid (I own a 37 coupe).

This. IF they do this I’d be seriously interested. I love the Type-R, but I want a few amenities as well (sunroof for one) - the SI could be great.

Counterpoint: wagons also have all the disadvantages of sedans and SUVs combined. Open cargo areas to stink/spread into the cabin, lack of ground clearance, added weight, lift hatches, often worse visibility to the rear/b/c pillars, etc.

I just spat my drink over my seat mate on a united flight. Someone who gets it...

I’ve had four jeeps. I only did one woody.

The good:

I had an ‘84. That was both the best, and worst, car I’ve ever owned. I miss it, but I SO don’t miss it.

With rare exception, the only capability one needs to work in a dealership is a heartbeat and the willingness to sell your soul. With exception, of course.

And more. The base base model was 3400; they go up from there.

Because 340hp (altitude) and that weight was slower and less nimble than the well-modified Firebird Formula I was coming from. The Camaro is a bloody pig. Mine is a 5th gen; I ordered one the moment I could order a ZL1, got my allocation in the beginning of the 2013 run.