Denial Minivan is the proper term.

We could use some cleansing anyway, it’s be a good start.

I’d take it a step further and go without ABS as well. Learning to drive without ABS and knowing how to modulate my brakes makes ABS a hindrance to me.

It should be illegal to ship a car *Anywhere with these tires. Absolute garbage.

False. Road deaths per mile driven have been increasing. Meaning driving is becoming more dangerous.

I would bet it has something to do with auto-braking, adaptive cruise, etc allowing people to pay attention even less, giving them even more time to bury in their phones.

False, look at the reports, most of them are per mile driven. Crashes have gone up over the last 2 years.

Nobody has forgotten how to drive.

It just wants you to hammer on the throttle and brakes like an imbecile.

There’s your problem, you don’t buy used from dealers, you buy used from private party and get the same car for thousands less.

Hey now, that 4cyl was a riot. It would pull 0-40 like a bat outta hell, then fall flat on it’s face when it shifted into 2nd. Managed to bury the speedo on our 87 on the interstate one night. Took me a 5-mile run, but she pulled it off. That car was indestructible.

They were great cars, especially for long cruises. Our 1990 Century with the 3300/4-spd would crack off high 30s on the highway (38.8 was our best). It was extremely comfortable and had a decent amount of power. I still miss that car to this day.

There’s another nice Buick off the market. Been looking for another one of these for quite some time now.

Find some actual statistics then.

In October 2010, an article published in the San Francisco Chronicle exposed the California Air Resources Board (CARB), a department within the California Environmental Protection Agency, for overestimating diesel emissions by 340 percent. The worst part was that this dizzying exaggeration of facts played a major role…

% of Dodge vehicles that are maintained properly will be far lower than the % of Honda vehicles that are.

And it’s still $20k+ more expensive.

Still using data that shows nothing on how a vehicle was maintained I see.

The wheels aren’t the problem, have you seen the rest of it?

The kids aren’t the problem with captains, it’s taking anyone who’s not the kids along places. Even then, removing car seats so a seat can be folded so the rear seat can be accessed? How is that easy?