Because of that, the only way to combat them is to engage them in reasoned debate and expose their fallacies.

What kind of liberal would then go on to assert that women are inferior and less suited to some jobs by dint of their mysterious womanly conditions? Come on, man, get real. That’s some 1950s bullshit. Obviously I’m not going to give him the benefit of the doubt on anything, because he’s just thrown his credibility and…

No one is impugning his right to speak, so all that quotation and air is totally unnecessary. The right to freedom of speech does not equal the right to employment, the right to force those opinions on others to whom they are unwelcome, or the right to have yourself taken seriously. Google said they welcome debate…

In the meantime, there is no reason we should expect Google to be “patient” with the guy. He said hateful things and that fosters a hostile work environment. The first amendment affords the guy free rein to shout his ideologies from the rooftops. Just not Google’s rooftops.

Teachers still do that all the time. Why would you imagine that stopped? Jesus Christ, old people are annoying. Turn off Fox News for ten goddamn minutes and find out from your kids what they actually do.

Reasoned debate accomplishes nothing if the other side is not interested in engaging in a reasoned debate. Liberals tried to debate the Nazi Party in Germany too and we all know how that turned out. There is only one effective way to shut down fascism and that is to shut down its champions by making them to ashamed or…

This sentiment is incredibly naive.

the first amendment applies to jailing people, not employing people. as for firing this guy, would you want to work with a guy who wrote a detailed screed outlining why your sex is inferior in the workplace?

When one side (or both) of a debate, ignores logic, scientific data, educated consensus, and refuses to even entertain the other side, you don’t have a debate.You have an argument. Debates can be wonderful opportunities for growth and learning. Arguments are pointless a waste of time

Lawyer here. The fact that the First Amendment is interpreted more broadly than any other Western democracy’s free speech laws is because of what SCOTUS Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes called “the Marketplace of Ideas”. In actual marketplaces, anyone selling anything toxic will find few customers to begin with and…

You need to read this. https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1af7007d6376

It seems safe to assume that his ten page manifesto detailing his belief that women are inherently less fit for tech work gave us some amount of information on which to judge his character. We know as much about him as he told us, which was plenty.

To be fair, no amount of reason, debate or fact has been shown to move climate-change deniers, anti-vaxxers, racists, sexists, bigots, etc. It often makes them dig in their heels and harden their views more than anything.

There were actually two things he did.

You seem more interested in making pronouncements of irony and waxing philosophical about this great debate and freedoms of expressions than about actually considering the viewpoints of others, which I also find ironic. Do you think he has been sent to a gulag from which he has no contact with the outside world? Do…

I’m sure the KKK complains about the chilling effect created by civil rights laws.

Yes, I worked with him. Our employment at Google overlapped. I judge people by their words and actions. He can’t be trusted to work with women.

Google has to follow hostile workplace laws just like every other company. Google isn’t “guilty” of anything. This guy was given the same employee manual I was, and he signed…

Yup. This is why I can’t stand why anyone even entertains the non-argument of “anyone who disagrees with...” or “we must hear both sides.” The idea that there is a balanced argument/viewpoint to your own does not make that argument/viewpoint legitimate or even worth listening to.

Nothing is being shut down. He’s still perfectly free to advance his ideas, however debunked and wrongheaded they may be, in the arena of public discourse. He just won’t be paid to circulate them amongst his colleagues whom he maligned with pseudo-scientific drivel. If anyone cares to argue with him, they are still…

There is always room for reasoned debate — even with unreasonable positions or persons.