Speculation on what other models there will be. All we have is a plant being built and no word on what models the batteries produced there will go into and an almost ready concept from a luxury brand no one pays attention to. When they have more than Bolts sitting on lots i’ll pay attention.

You’re right. But still, my point is that all we have is the Bolt and speculation at this point.

I agree with you to a point. The lawsuit changed things in a lot of areas and not for the better. But still, calling out GM on their bullshit doesn’t mean they have it out for GM. The constant coverage of the C8 and its praises shows that. There are a lot of things GM isn’t doing right right now. Overall quality could…

I wouldn’t call one EV on the market being exactly ahead.

Its not hate. Its truth. Don’t misconstrue the 2 but you don’t feel its painting it in a positive light. If this were Lexus or Infiniti (moreso Lexus) the tone would be different because they would actually deliver either this year or early next year. Not debut a vehicle as an 80% finished concept 2 years out from its…

A concept that’s 80% complete. Its pretty much finished. This is GM we’re talking about here. The only thing that I’m sure is going to change is that range.

Its cool I guess. The design is striking. But its just meh to me at this point as its just yet another luxury EV for the well off. And that 2022 release date is absolutely unacceptable given a company with GM’s size and resources. The fact that the debuted it today but its not set to go on sale for another 2 years…

Its still too much. And for the money, the range is garbage. And looks, especially with EV’s are subjective, but this thing blends into the crowd. Not in a good way. In person, a passing glance would make you think it was an A6 Avant or something. Its no surprise that owners aren’t keeping these things. They are…

He was either fired or it was a mutual leaving. It’s too abrupt for it to have been a retirement. Maybe they are regretting his decision to stop selling cars here. As of late, they’ve seem to be trying to go the “we’re a tech mobility company route” than automaker. Which is kinda weird. 

The problem is that most of these drivers are White, and not American. So they not only don’t understand, they don’t want to or have little incentive to care. F1 needs to be more inclusive with other ethnicities. Its starkly White, and that’s because of its Eurocentric nature. Until that changes though, these drivers…

I think its a smart move. They already have the Niro EV. No need to have both of them. Plus it would’ve been expensive as was mentioned. And I’m sure they would have only moved a few hundred of them a month, if that.

NP for someone interested in this thing. That’s not me though. I never understood why it came to the US. It was a plug in sure (and not a good one if I remember correctly) but it arrived years late after other automakers tried and failed to get weird Euro MPV baby vans to be a thing. Remember the Kia Rondo and Mazda 5?

To me it was garbage and nothing more than a 2 door Galant it’s last gen. Had they done it right, it could’ve been a legit Z competitor. Especially if it had used an AWD and engine set up from the Evo. But this is Mitsu. Their good days were already long gone. 

I’d say this is true. And a lot of their dealers, at least the ones that I’ve seen that are locally, have great used inventories. Especially if you want luxury on the cheap or a cheap muscle car. I’m sure it’s the only way they have been getting business. A lineup of 3 crossovers, of which 2 are essentially the same…

1st gear: Mitsu being in trouble should be a surprise to no one. I’m surprised they didn’t follow Suzuki and Isuzu out when they left the NA market. One way to tell how bad things are with them? Look at their dealer inventories. When you’re used inventory is better than anything you have new on the lot that’s a…

I’m only saying NP because this price is literally in line with what these things go for now on the used market. 

It’s nice but it’s fine. Really. No one buys the Arteon anyway. Even fewer would buy this. 

CUVs are the oddball though. Customers don’t need height. They’ve been sold that being higher is safer. Crossovers don’t make sense because in most cases they don’t do anything objectively better than the cars they are usually based on. And many times they are often worse in things like interior room, gas mileage,…

Correct me if I’m wrong l, but I haven’t seen anywhere that we’re getting this in the US.

Oh most definitely. Those initial markups though...