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I’m pretty sure the GTSi was closer to 8 seconds 0-60 (edit 7.8 per Internet). There was a comparison in an old collector car magazine between the 308 and X1/9 (my Dad had one) and they were pretty much lock step in performance when they tested them. 6.6 would have been pretty fast for that era and the 308 wasn’t ever

“Again, the appearance of the car, inside and out makes up for the mechanical shortcomings.”

Sault Ste. Marie: [SU” saynt muh-REE’]

You’re forgetting the best part: this thing would have heritage and access to the best car name of all time!

However, I’d counter your otherwise excellent list in that virtually none of those have offroad aspirations to the degree that GC and Touareg do. Those are all really just crossovers (save for the Range Rover)

Not sure I’d consider the Jeep GC as a luxury SUV, but I don’t see a lack of luxury two-rows:

The Grand Cherokee has a $20,000 lower starting price.

Well, the Grand Cherokee comes in at much lower price points than the Touareg. Plus, the Grand Cherokee has the Jeep pedigree, which means more for an SUV. There’s the fact that Chrysler has far less-stringent finance criteria. And finally, for the MSRP of a base Touareg (nearly $50K), you can come away with a very

Sure, ok, 0-60 is a wash. I don’t disagree. And I’m not trying to defend the Durango, per se. As a jeep owner, who has to deal with jeep/dodge dealer service, I don’t know if I could handle owning another one.

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It’s a hierarchy thing. Ignoring the diesels the V40 has T2, T3, T4 and T5 gas engine options. The V60 adds a T6 to the T2-T5 and the V90 adds a T8 (while skipping T2-T4). Why there is no T7 is beyond me, but the engine hierarchy is rather clear, don’t you think?

I like it, but I wish there was more badges

They all shared a platform with something else after the C900. (before that was only the 600 which was re-badged). My Saab is a GM Epsilon 2 LWB chassis, so I guess that would make it a Buick in disguise? Either way I’m fine that I have a large sedan with a turbocharged engine and a 6-speed manual.

But it’s not really about $20k after incentives, especially when you factor in financing. Building my same S model on VWs cost estimator webpage comes out to $23,708 total MSRP. That is before financing. Assuming 3 percent interest and the same 6 year loan amount as my 0% loan, that winds up costing around $27,500

Actually, the Legacy GT and its wagon variant had an MSRP of about $32,000 in 2005-2009. Adjusting for inflation, that’s $41,000 in 2017 dollars. The Golf R’s MSRP of $35,600 is actually significantly under that, so it’s actually a cheaper buy for much better performance (it’s a decade newer in design and both out

Nicely put. Saab’s death by a thousand cuts should serve as a warning for any country to not sell their prestige auto brands to the foreign competition.

When I sold back my TDI Sportwagen, the Alltrack wasn’t out yet and was a bit more than I wanted to spend and I went with a GTI, which is the same from the rear seats forward. Actually, I think the Alltrack may have a slightly bigger rear seat. Either way, I have had three 11 year olds in the back of my GTI and

And the crowd goes mild.

There’s no other cars or people anywhere.