Christ yes, good example.

“Have Star Wars fans overtaken Star Trek fans as the worst, most annoying fanbase in all of media?”

So close.

“‘yeah i sank like 2000 hours into this game. i got kind of burned out from playing. idk if i really wanna go back to this... i guess i might sink in a few hundred more hours.’ and it is always some kind of ‘loot game’ or gacha game or something like that.”

I cannot fault your reasoning here.

Because it’s fundamentally more fun, allows for far more interesting and diverse mechanics, for longer-term gameplay development and fits extremely well with a ladder or season gameplay model? Because that's why. Not some paranoid drivel about addiction.

That’s a really childish way to look at it, honestly. I’ve played this exact kind of game for decades, and off, and you don’t get “addicted” to it anymore than literally any other game with long-term playability. One more turn in Civilization or SMAC is the most "addicted" to game I've ever been. ARPG endgames of even…

I don’t really agree, at 45.

I mean, it sounds dumb and awful, but the same is true for literally every ARPGs endgame if you write it down.

Yeah I think if you're burned out on D3 this is basically D3-2, so it's not going to work. Personally I've only played two seasons of D3 heavily (up to GRift 100+) so I've still got something in my tank. I am a bit disappointed they stuck so close to the D3 model though, rather than innovating more.

That's for a good reason though. People play through those once and they're done, and their mechanics are shallow and not particularly engaging compared to Diablo 2 and beyond.

Path of Exile actually follows the D2 model of endgame - trading as the primary mode of gaining gear.

God forbid someone speak relatively naturally and slightly mix implied metaphors in the process. Call the word police.

What on earth?

Oh god it’s those guys. I’ve literally never been able to sit through the whole of any of their movies. I think my record is about 60% of the way through one of the Despicable movies.

How you going to get something brewing if you don’t start it yourself?

I think it’s a real problem because it’s so extreme. Doing Druid 1-20 took literally 3-4x as long as Necro 1-20, and I died way more, and I had to work way, way harder. How many players are going to stick with Druid to 50 if they have to hour after hour sucking it up compared to Necro/Sorcerer/Rogue? (I didn’t play…

Re: doing fine - yeah, the trouble comes if you play the other classes.

“Melee is slightly undertuned at lower level”

Ouch! Goddamn I can see why you might think that then.