Of course it's my opinion, this is a forum/comments section, is it not? I've stated it multiple times. Your analogies don't make sense. The BRZ is like a 7 series with cloth seats and no aircon. The suggestion is there, but it just ain't happening. It's not a sports car, it's a fun car. The fact that everyone is…

I'll put it in plain terms:

Given the nature of our specific geology, a lot of the trucks are off-road 6 wheel drive ones, but they are quite a bit more expensive. I still maintain that most of these trucks will never go off-road or haul anything near the capacity.

It will make something like at least 90% of it's peak torque between 1700 and 2500 RPM. That's a narrow powerband. It IS all down to gearing.

Towing trailers, going off-road ... i maintain that most of these trucks won't do any of that. FYI, this thing would also require a special license in the EU. Because it's just ridiculously big and heavy.

Yes. A bit large, aren't they?

An engine is something that rotates and builds momentum as it keeps producing the same amount of power/torque for as long as you fuel it. It is all down to gearing. Gear it for 60 mph at 2K/2.5K rpm and you'll get by with half the torque.

The thing is that the chassis is capable, but it's set up all wrong, because it would be very boring to drive otherwise. More power would make this car. Either more power, or a more playful chassis and less weight. It's not that light weight, it tips the scales at just under 1300 KG for the base model. There is…

I told you i own speedster, which is a lotus elise. I know all about momentum cars. The BRZ is not a momentum car, it suffers monumental understeer at high speed.

sigh ...

So then, 500-600 NM would do, right?

" which actually shouldn't matter as long as you're having fun." SO is it a sports car or just a fun car?

Base cayman? Yes

Son, 500-600 is more than enough to tow pretty much anything.

Well, hauling 10.000kg at 130 km/h is illegal here (as it should be). A 600 NM diesel motor will also produce 90% of it's torque at 1700 rpm. 1K+NM is excessive. As for geography ... you're not the only ones with elevation changes, mountain passes, etc. I'm not saying there's no need for work trucks. I'm just…

That's not my point, and i'm sorry if i came across like that. My point is isn't durable and will be quickly ruined if used for hard work.

You're never going to convince me. The fact that you've got BRZ in your nickname says it all, but just one more time.

I've been on quite a bit of business trips to the US, and i just didn't see many (if any) people using these things for what they were made for. I did see a lot of them down at the mall, though. I'm not saying this truck can't do it. I'm just saying that it is very large, and very excessive, and really crossing…

If they had intended it to be a real sports car, it would have 250 hp out of the factory. An old lotus or porsche is still a sports car because it had momentum and poise back in the day. The BRZ is missing half of that.

I'm saying that the douchebros vastly outnumber the justified use cases. This vehicle is catering to the douchebros, and oh ... it can also haul things. If it were purpose built for the working man, it would be built tougher and last longer (like a semi). I don't see this doing over a million kms working hard every…