I am occasionally one of them. Only in the summer, for the first few hours after I washed my face tho.

And from my female friends' experience, yes, definitely male friends they'd hook up with if circumstances allow. But from what I hear, it has more to do with discretion than physical attraction; a guy who won't blab is always better hook-up material than a hottie with a big mouth.

Urmm, not now that I'm married.

There's "like", and then there's "like".

I think your definition of "endgame" might be a bit askew...

No matter where it comes from, the behavior is pretty wrong tho. While feelings are indeed hurt, I don't think anger often comes from hurt feelings so much as a disconnect between what is expected and what actually happens. It's still a sense of entitlement, though you're right that it's far more complicated than just…

Hmmm well I never dated him, so maybe there's that?

*whoosh*

It depends on how much you valued the relationship in the first place. With my best friend, the concept of not seeing him anymore was way worse than having to get over him.

I think people do go overboard a bit and become overly harsh on these guys.

It's not possible for everyone, but it's possible to maintain a platonic relationship with someone after bringing romance or sex into the equation. My best friend is still my best friend even after he rejected me. My once friends-with-benefits is now a platonic friend. I'm still good friends with several guys I've…

Good catch on the name!

Very true.

Yeah, she probably was interested in him first, but assumed it wasn't reciprocated.

Honesty always helps, because most people are bad fakers and people can tell what they're trying to pull. The friend zone BS can ruin what could have been a relationship, because no one likes people with ulterior motives, all else being equal.

Stupid Kinja won't let me edit, grrrr....

Thing is, someone in what you call the "real" friendzone would never, ever call it the friendzone. Because they respect their friendship.

Idk, I mostly see guys self-labeling it as being "friend-zoned", which naturally opens them up to censure. Whenever I've seen guys simply talk about being rejected and what they did wrong, the response is generally sympathy.

But everyone's afraid of being rejected. Most of all if you genuinely care about the person and risk changing the friendship irreparably. But getting angry and lashing out at the person you purported to like just shows that you didn't really like them; you just wanted them to fill a "role" in your life.

Yeah, the number of guy "friends" who came out of the woodwork when I broke up with my ex was disgusting. You can also identify them by how much they trash talk anyone you're interested in.