I guess. But in that case, the friend is the one looking down on the friendship, though its connotations are definitely not as harsh. Like, a friend would definitely not say that if the people in question were close or had been friends a long time.

Or any club or heavily party atmosphere?

No, the term came about because a bunch of guys were going around complaining about how they never got laid/no one liked them even thought they were soooooo nice. And things like "Girls always go for assholes; nice guys finish last".

Ahh yeah. My friend didn't realize she was being clinging until she described her actions to me and I was like, dude, you're being hella clingy. Not surprised he bailed.

Feels like social media pressure and just straight up cash have replaced marches and such, at the national level at least. Think Occupy Wall Street.

I've been on both ends of "too much" in a relationship.

I said "pretty much". In addition, I never specified whether the method of attack was verbal or physical.

Probably.

Sorry, I misread your post.

I'm sorry...

You can't really help what you find creepy, just like you can't help what you find attractive.

Yes.

I don't think that your dating experience was "Nice Guy" behavior.

Nice is being used ironically, btw.

That's not the friend zone; you were never treating them as friends.

I replied to someone else above, but as someone who fell for my best friend and got rejected, I feel that term would be an insult to our friendship.

Yeah, as someone who fell in love with her best friend and got rejected, I feel like using the term "friend zone" would be an insult to our friendship. It's a term you use only when you don't care for the friendship.

Most girls have guy friends who they would date under certain circumstances, and guy friends they would never date under any circumstances.

You follow people you just met at parties home without invitation?

1. Nopenope nope nope. Following someone out of a social event without an invitation is always, always creepy. Doesn't matter how attractive he is, or if she's interested. If anything, it's a huge turnoff that would end any interest she had in the first place.