Yeah, having watched it a few times now this is where I’ve landed too— there are great individual scenes but it’s such a drag overall. Empire was dark but had an adventure aspect to keep things enjoyable that TLJ didn’t.

in which each party will support absolutely anyone and anything in order to get a win, any win.

St. Lucia also!

Yeah, as we get farther from the OT, younger audiences just don’t care.

I’m not a “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars” type and generally like what TLJ did with Luke/Kylo/Rey despite kind of a dour tone, but the plotlines that were purely his inventions (the slow-speed chase, Finn and Rose’s side adventure, Holdo and Poe’s clashes) were the weakest parts of the movie for me, so I’m not…

This. Also, people who acted like Trump could somehow never win a two-person race were always useless and should be ignored going forward, but it’s simplistic to pretend that the Comey letter and Podesta leaks didn’t happen in those last days and materially change the race.

Going down to ten episodes was the best thing they did this season. It made the story tighter and is something the other Netflix Marvel shows should do.

You’re not wrong — even in the streaming era a 2.5 year wait kills any momentum.

What do people expect for unlimited streaming at $9-12 a month or whatever it is now? Seems like a decent lineup...

I truly hope so. Popular wisdom that “he’s not going to win” or “he’s not going to govern like he campaigns” didn’t help in 2016.

Eh, I’m no Hillary stan, but there’s a good chance Dems nominate a woman again, and I think people are kidding themselves if they don’t believe you’ll start hearing “there’s just something wrong with her/I just hate her/well, both candidates are bad!” again in that case.

People aren’t wrong that his base won’t care, but it’s useful to remember that he won by 77,000 votes across three states.

The pop culture/Star Wars hill I will die on is arguing that Rey’s not trying to find out who her parents are in TFA — she’s held back by wondering if and when they’re coming back for her, instead.

You missed out -- two was by far the best.

+1. There’s some very deserved things to rag on in TFA, but I think Rey and Kylo (and even Finn to an extent) were the most fully-formed characters we’ve gotten in trilogy opener in these movies, and am looking forward to what he can do with them at the end.

I’d say don’t bother. The first season was fun and had some strong hours, but people either forget or purposefully overlook a fair amount of bad writing and one really awful suicide plot when they put it on a pedestal (at least compared to what came later).

I don’t agree with all of the above (I love Leia using the force even if it looks a little hokey!) and generally like the movie but I think you’re onto something important here. Johnson has spoken about wanting his script to veer from what you’d expect in a Star Wars movie.

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Oh word. Genuinely appreciate the replies!

She said she’s quitting comedy, so why do you expect it to be funny?