So realistically, what does it compete with at the price and in that class (please leave all pontiacs out, no one is cross shopping SS’s with this)

Way too Lexus RC . terrible in both iterations. Only volvo (and maybe the cadenza) seems to be able to do a non standard kink right.

With a strong side wall profile too. I like. Alot.

Hot damn that is some old school awesome honda styling. I’m getting a 2000 Accord vibe from the windows. The front is decently aggressive, the rear un-Pilotted. Bet its expensive as hell.

To a minivan owner and heavy user, looks mean squat. My wife refused the chrysler cause it drove terribly. She is NOT a car person as all. I hated it and was so reliveved she did too. It was 30% cheaper than the oddesy we chose out teh door btw. She could not stand even continuing the “try it out” drive, I drove it…

Same standards is a start.

Also, need to see interior. A good car can be ruined by a bad dash in particular. Camaro I’m looking your way. Stupid guage tunnels/hoods.

This (and the bolt) do not look too bad, and I’m gonna somewhat disagree with the Korean hatch clone comments. Despite the same window line, and similar front quarter to wheel lines , It seems to stance wider, maybe that’s the point, but it goes a long way. If they can get an enthusiast version (that doesn’t kill…

OMG I’m so excited for you, and personally so excited for me to read what happens. I appreciate your hard work Doug! Damned entertaining.

What are his workable delivery mthods for either device? All I can think is a crude device in a submarine on a suicide mission, or trucked in on a suicide mission. Maybe a short range intra-theater rocket with a device that won’t survive the trip. How can he possibly have anything like a workable MRBM with a nuclear…

If Genesis is gonna be its own brand, they need a bentayga to pay for it all

Wow the homer, never thought of that. Scary!

I’m into the tech of racing, not the actual watching, but I might start. What’s the first date this bedroom poster car will rumble to life in competition?

THIS is the secret hush hush big deal? I thought it would be a camry killer. Or something that mattered.

I think you’re correct about NATO’s goals as an organization, but don’t confuse NATO’s and Obama’s motivation. NATO has objectives, strategy, tactics. Obama has himself, his ego, his legacy, his damage control, his aversion to any situation he can’t spin, etc etc. Their two interests coincide in this case.

I meant accord wagon. And mid oughts. And i suck.

I can’t decide if that is dead sexy.... Or too mid-90’s Camry wagon.

I don’t think I mentioned race once (nope, I checked), and that hateful word won’t ever cross my lips or thoughts. But this is a perfect illustration of the classic leftist response to a valid opinion. Thank you.

It’s a great shot. (And I say this as someone who stands against everything this president has done, and everything he stands for. But...) The message this photo sends is amazing and it’s perfectly done. Bet that kid got a framed one he’ll be real proud of for life.

I doubt I’d enjoy a beer with Obama. We’d have to meet somewhere large enough for his ego. The superdome is probably booked.