I don’t know if I’ve said this on another comment but it’s okay to repeat, I hope. BLESS YOU. You’re holding it down hardcore and you shouldn’t have to. <3

haha you asshole, I’m a cis woman. I like that the assumption is that if I don’t subscribe to your vision of oNe WoManHoOd then I must be trans.

Gender has been the most important source of oppression in my life, which means that this is obviously the case for everyone else.

I’ve got one better. I’ve got (and you’ve got! it’s right up there!) a statement by Voegel saying “we’re not going to police whether you’re trans or not but if you respect us you won’t show up.”

all right so it boils down to “it’s not just me, cis women just have some fundamental stuff in common and it’s just society but if you boil it all down we have all experienced the same things that a trans woman just couldn’t access.” I like that you’re like yeah fat women, brown women, they all have it in common too.…

So, is the argument “there’s no trans exclusion going on, I’ve talked to people about it” or is the argument “trans exclusion is okay because XX/XY crap?”

Oh but there’s plenty of people on twitter like “michfest is over—THANKS “women”” or whatever. Or “there were plenty of other festivals, why target this one? hmmmm anti woman conspiracyyyy”

thank you for summing this up with many less words than I could :’)

Yeah but not all women get pregnant, and not all pregnant people are women.

I mean that is definitely true but it’s not a counterpoint. That’s like saying “Thomas Jefferson wasn’t racist, everyone was racist back then!” or “the whole concept of hysteria isn’t misogynistic, EVERYONE thought women were inferior back then!”

I mean that’s basically the complaint but it rests on this other assumption that ALL cis women share something in common because they’re gendered a certain way and trans women would never understand. I actually don’t think that anyone has given satisfactory grounds for that claim. Like, setting aside how much “male…

I don’t think that the implication is that everyone’s the same. The implication is that if you’re making 1) making a festival about women, then all women-identified-women should be included. if you’re 2) hosting a uterus convention, you should call it that. and if you’re 3) declaring a cis-woman only space, which they…

“I believe that transgenderism stems from internalized stereotypes”

Well, the first thing that should clue you into that bullshit is that they’re complaining about having to be “PC.” Here at Jezebel, we hate it when white folks and men do it, so why would it be legitimate in a debate about trans exclusion?

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you worded this perfectly. “best girlfriend but also kind of not”

thank youuu this is like the time that one of my teachers (an actual health professional who worked in the actual field treating real people with medicine) was like “yeah HIV can be transmitted through tears.”

the Hyde Amendment prevents the use of federal funds for abortion, and I’d say that counts as a regulation, so...

whenever I see his name, I don’t first think “lube” or “fecal matter” I think “frothy.”

This question makes me sad. Not because of you, it’s a totally reasonable question to ask, especially if you’ve spent even three minutes watching American media. It makes me sad though that we have these narratives of childbirth that are equivalent with like, coming down with meningitis. Childbirth isn’t seen as a…