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Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward
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Ok, so you’re making some good points, but I’m not sure they’re applicable to this situation. Margret Cho is a public figure who had publicly spoken out against whitewashing and, specifically, Tilda’s casting. So it’s not a random request to educate. Cho publicly said she didn’t like what Tilda was doing, so it was

Check out Cho’s long winded, metaphor crammed nugget of butt hurt, over the fact Swinton wanted to run a few things by her, on the down low. LMAO.

I think the answer is that Margaret Cho was being astonishingly two-faced.

Except... this was a completely private conversation — not a white person fishing for credit in the media.

“Ms. Swinton is an insanely wealthy woman of the uppermost classes, who lives not in merely in the Highlands, but in her familial castle on familial acreage granted to them by the British monarchy.”

But it wasn’t random, Cho has been talking about this for a long time and bemoaned the lack of discourse about it. So when someone reached out to have that exact conversation she turned it into a comedy bit to shame that person. Great way to encourage the dialogue you say you seek.

I’m Asian, and I even wrote about my problem with Dr. Strange’s whitewashedness in The Washington Post. And I find Tilda’s responses to be nuanced and willing to listen. If this is truly the receipts, Swinton has my respect for trying to respectfully navigate this issue.

Actually, from the emails, I get the feeling that Tilda is the nicest person ever with a huge impostor syndrome and “male” pattern of interaction. She might be genuinely shy. She also reads things just exactly as they look on the tin . While Cho strikes me as the bumblebee extrovert type who takes advantage of her

The way I’ve interpreted it is that Margaret still wanted to be pissed about The Ancient One being cast with a white actor even after Tilda explained the reasoning behind it and so she responded with a childish “but... STILL”.

If Swinton came in demanding Cho enlighten her I would 100% agree with your comment; I think burnout from being required to be a cultural ambassador is a very real phenomena that POC experience. But Swinton literally opened with the line: “Tell me to fuck off if you feel like it.” Did their conversation go 100%

Because Tilda Swinton, who had no relationship with all before this, tapped her as the One Asian Friend and went from “hey, can we talk about this” to “oh wise Asian, please enlighten me as to how we can make the entire world a better place?”

It really seems like Cho brazenly misrepresented their conversation. Huh! Not a good look

She has connections to a different culture, whatever. The point is Swinton made an honest and well-intentioned attempt to understand this issue and was not rude or offensive about it at all. And Cho shat on her publicly for no good reason.

I love doing this. There is no greater work reward than responding to some sort of escalation email with definitive proof that you had provided exact steps to resolve an issue, and yet they did not follow the instructions then try and escalate and pin it on you.

Yeah, funny enough, that’s exactly how I hoped a conversation like that would go and for some reason it seems like Cho decided to twist it around on the podcast for comedic purposes. Maybe there’s more to it than this, but right now Cho looks very bad.

Being white means nothing in this situation. Here was one human being trying to earnestly relate to another human being of a different culture, and then said other person went on to be a two-faced ass about it for no reason.

Or Cho is a lying hack and tried to get the spotlight put on her?

now that i’ve read margaret and tilda’s conversation, i have to wonder if margaret did as well.

I’m wondering if she was equally concerned that Baron Mordo was also played by someone of a different race than his source material.

We don’t know that he’s had fewer alien companians than human ones. The alien ones just weren’t included in the tales humans tell other humans about their interactions with The Doctor.

Every since it occurred to me that Star Wars is a story told by the victors (from the point of view of the citizens loyal to the