Their shared use of flying buttresses behind the cabin, LED running lights, and wheels that are round do suggest some serious collaboration.

I don’t care if it’s politically incorrect, the joke just isn’t funny at all.

Dear Germany,

Why do you think I’m lying to you? LOL this is hilarious. I’m not at all, and I’m not bragging. I thought the car was a sort of a POS, but it garnered a whole lot more attention that my Fiesta does that’s a fact. I’m telling you my experience, and you don’t have any to offer.

If you can dodge an RPG, you can dodge a trailer hitch.

I give them credit for using the cars—as if keeping them in heated garages under covers and only taking them out for short cruises on sunny weekends is so “manly”.

Been strongly considering buying one of these within the next 6-12 months but can’t help but feeling like if I wait until the 488 hits the used market that I probably will be able to land a 458 for not that much more money. Sure, the 458 is “slower”, but in fairness, I get to listen to that glorious fucking naturally…

It’s the thought that counts. Literally it wouldn’t matter if it cost $30K, typical Jalop lives through symbolic victories

Worst forum shit storm ever seen? Easy. Go to any thread on Gawker or Jezebel, make a comment where you might appear to not be a left wing liberal nut job. You could tell them the sky is blue. However, if they even THINK you are a Republican (even if thats not the case), not only is the sky NOT blue, but you are an…

If you have to be that careful not to drive through a wall, maybe start riding a bicycle more?

Who doesn’t wear seatbelts anymore? This isn’t 1995.

yeah most of my co-workers average 20-30 each way. I actually am right at 9.6 miles total commute for the day. But what i save in commute i pay in living. Such is the life of Socal.

I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in Southern California most people commute 30 miles or more. There's a few that do less than that. Even fewer that do less than 10.

We’re talking MSRP cap, so people looking for a 30k car would be cross shopping Leafs, Volts, Priuses, along with gasoline variants, not an S or an X.

Reading your comments in this chain, it seems you’re going with some anecdotal evidence that Tesla’s are toys and running with it. Do you have any actual evidence that a sizable amount of Tesla buyers are getting these cars as weekend toys? Any evidence that the decision to buy the Tesla as opposed to not buying an…

GTFO of my state, peasant.

How in gods name is that still too high? 200k to live in super expensive California is not really “wealthy”. Maybe upper middle class.

Because if the choice is between a Tesla and something equally expensive, an incentive to buy the electric vehicle is supposed to help the environment. However, since people have a hate-boner for anyone who makes more money than they do, then the environment takes a back seat to their agenda.

LOL I see you don’t live in California.