People are reading far too deep into this, it’s simply the developers having a laugh.
People are reading far too deep into this, it’s simply the developers having a laugh.
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I’m not sure rights enter into it. Fact of the matter is nowadays they didn’t sell you a self-contained machine, they sold you a machine for accessing their network. The logical extension of that is they can cut that off. Flail against it all you want, but it’s the reality of the situation.
Very true! But sadly, i think as the years keep going, more and more, those lines are going to get a lot more blurry... and since it’ll be delivered in a shiny package when things are going good, we’ll just smile and accept it. Before you know it, we won’t really own much of anything, anymore.
I just can’t see that being in the agreement. I’d love to get a look at the NDA.
But would it give them any right to brick it? I don’t think so. Say whoever these guys are who have had their system bricked turned off their machines before Microsoft bricked them, could MS hire some bailiffs, to kick down their door and put a sledgehammer to their system? Nope, it’s your property and they would have…
No, not at all, but in a court system you have a judicial process. I was trying to make the point that things aren’t always clear cut. I’m sure they may have an appeals process too. But... I could understand blocking the software etc., I don’t get where they have the right to brick the machine, it’s your property no…
Fair enough, bit of a throw away comment really. What I’m really curious about is the bricking and I’ve made a few comments on this. You’re their contractor, but if they didn’t provide the machine it’s your property and I don’t see how they have any legal right to brick your machine. Maybe they do? I’m curious to know…
Then understand there are legal ways of handling NDA violations. Breaking personal property isn’t one of them.
But the point I’m trying to make is that the xbox one is your property and not microsofts, what gives them the right to brick it? As I’ve said already, not in the above post, I’d be very curious to know what legal right they have to brick your machine. I’m not alarmed at all, I’m genuinely intrigued. I don’t own an…
You’re stretching there a bit. If your in a testing program like this, it is made very clear that you are responsible for the security of information about the software. That means, that if you let someone else play your console with pre-release software on it, you better make sure they don't do something that will…
But if you did something malicious, or whatever, on someone elses console, then do they just get a free pass because they said, ‘well it wasn’t me.’ ? If that’s the case, everyone would get off scott free :X The owner of the equipment needs to be responsible for their own toys. And nope, it’s not always fair.
That’s what I’ve been trying to discern. I can’t imagine in any legal way that Microsoft has the power to do that.
exactly!
I’m pretty sure nobody reads any t&c when buying an Xbox One system.
Because you’ve paid for the system and it’s yours, you should be free to use it, they can ban you from testing their game. Once you paid for the system, it’s your property, it’s no longer Microsoft’s. Would you think it was ok, if you had watched a downloaded film on your television and they your tv was bricked?
I would like to see where in the agreement it says they can brick your system though, not saying it doesn’t, it just doesn’t sound right. The xbox is only a platform to use and you’ve paid for it.
Much the same as you read every t&c that you agree to when using any service on the internet or downloading a program
Yeah, all they would need to do is push some software/firmware to your system.
Would it be possible to start including the Japanese names of the shows in the list as well?