If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
People are fucking weird. This was HILARIOUS. And all the more so by how many complete cringe worthy moments there were, of all these media people being entirely unable to laugh at them selves. Did you guys see Blitzer’s face?? If eyes could kill, Larry would be dead. Dead, I tell ya.
Nah, man. No question Leicester is the best team.
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Right? So telling that the top thread is a white woman talking about how it’s totally not for her, but here are her thoughts anyway. I think it’s okay to be moved by it. It’s moving. It’s also okay to be moved privately, without performance.
My sister is white and her daughter is adopted and Black, and I see her sometimes struggling because there are times when there are no words for her feelings, because as a parent she feels such deep pain for the hate directed at her child and the road she is going to face as a Black woman in America, but she can never…
>>My opinion should not matter to Beyonce or the other women in the video, and when they’re talking, I will gladly give them the space in which to do that,<<
Right on siesta! You didn’t need to be white to feel that power. Shoot I was adopted by a middle age white woman who insisted I read Toni Morrison, and Alice Walker. I am truly proud that you appreciated it! Plus, that love song encompassed all types of couples. I cried from start to finish. It brought my soul to…
It’s a hard line to walk. Honestly, (this is me as a white person) I don’t think Beyoncé made Lemonade for only black women to talk about. Was it for black women? Hell yes. But she released it to everybody and I think she meant everyone to hear it. I’m most interested in what black women have to say about it.
Totally. I just wish the conversation could be more open and positive and not so overly pedantic. We don’t need to all fight with each other, we’re on the same side!
I actually have been made to think I needed to make that disclaimer because other people say things like “white girls, this isn’t for you”. Which, in turn, makes me feel like I need to say “I know this isn’t for me, but I like it.” Does that make sense?
We don’t need your “AS A WHITE PERSON, I LOVE THIS” bullshit. You love it because you are a person, because you connected with the work on a emotional level, because you found you relevant to your personal experience, not because of your fetishization of black female beauty.
The “disclaimers” do not annihilate the fetishism. She stands from the outside screaming: “Society does not but I approve! I approve!” We do not seek her approval; we do not want her approval.
Your chief mistake was thinking black women need or even want your approval. I understand that you were trying to express how much you connected with the work but your diction reveals only a fetishistic appreciation.
I think the issue is the qualifier. If she just said “Lemonade was beautiful. The women were beautiful.” and stopped there... it wouldn’t have come off that way.
I’m talking about all the people who say, “I know I’m a white lady so this isn’t for me, but I’m gonna say a million self-indulgent things about it anyway so I can feel good about myself”. Nobody cares about that shit. I do care about people who have interesting things to say about the art.
Don't you see? This wasn't meant for you or the overwhelming white and middle class to wealthy people who subscribe to HBO.
Her whiteness distracts from the real focus which is Lemonade. The white guilt business is played out. Also, appreciation of Black (and other non-white) beauty predates Bey.
Disclaimers are meaningless when the person acts contrary to them. One can simply enjoy something without making it all about what (surface) they are rather than who (depth):