A respectful counterpoint: Unions are bargaining for wages that are excessive for their value.

Saying someone HAS to join a union to take job X is not much different than saying they HAVE to join a cult to do the same. So if an employer came along and said, “Hey, we’ve got this job you want to do, but... we signed an agreement with this group and you have to shave your head and wear a robe at work. Oh, and give…

I mean of course you are correct. But folks are outchea acting like ONLY good has ever come from unions.
Or that someone thinking they should have the right to negotiate on their own should be shut down.

The thing you don’t understand is that some unions suck.

I appreciate your flame retardant reply. However, I don’t feel like dragging this out. I think it’s stupid the way people think of the positive benefits of unions and bash anyone that has an opinion of the negative as the OP . i’ve personally seen how a teachers union ruined Saint louis Public Schools. so yes that…

Here’s the thing these dip-shits responding to you don’t understand - some unions suck.

Sorry bud, to be liberal in 2017 you have to conform to ALL of the media’s stated ideals for you, otherwise just die already and vote republican cause that is what you really are.

How is it that you view this comment in this way? It’s as if you operate under the assumption that every employer will take advantage of the employee. Or as if the employee shouldn’t have the right to negotiate independently.

That argument is spurious at best. If the job you want/are qualified to do in your area happens to be union and you don’t believe the union represents your best interests, then that’s not much of a choice, is it?

The vast majority of the commentariat is going to think you’re literally worse than Hitler for saying that. But they don’t understand that the personal freedom that comes with classical liberalism includes the freedom to make bad choices. Being forced into a “good” choice is still forcing someone to do something. A…

I didnt say I am against unions. I said i am against forcing people to join them.

I am about as liberal as they come, i will never support forcing someone to join a union and pay dues instead of negotiating their own deal.