What? Does everyone really think that the PS4/NextBox are both going to do over 4mil units at launch? I highly doubt they will...they might come close though but with both systems out at the same time and likely to cost over $400 (my guess is around $450-$500) it's going to be tough for them.

I dunno, guess time will tell. Though, I think Nintendo could be up to something with things...they're release cycle will put their new console close to the middle of the cycle for the NextBox/PS4...they could do something sneaky with this...

Yeah, I know I'm on track for something like that with this.

Yeah, the software thing is the Achilles heel of the thing I think...I just don't get why it's getting reemed so badly in the press...unless they're just "Oooo negative=clicks!" *shrugs*

Regardless of the issues around the other launches, there are just as many or more Wii U's in the hands of consumers than the last gen. Why is getting ragged so hard? I can understand investors getting upset (like I said in another reply) but I don't get why developers, knowing the numbers are so afraid or say there's…

I get the investors being upset due to that. What I don't get is the lambasting that the media and developers have given it.

Yeah, that's a really good point. I think the lack of software really hurt them. Nothing was really that big or "must buy" during Jan/Feb...it's slowly getting better but they need more. It's like the 3DS launch all over again....

So, no one is going to buy a PS4 for all those games that will be coming out?

Um, re-read that. I did include the full 4 month figures for all the systems.

Yeah, games have been a huge problem. I'll definite agree there. Even I waited a while until picking it up. Mostly since Jan and Feb were so barren of games...

I can see that, but it's still not this huge failure and dying thing everyone keeps saying it is.

I'd be curious to see what the weekly sales were for the 360 and PS3 after the initial push. The Wii U sold like crazy at the start and then tapered off...mostly due to no new games Jan/Feb. I wonder how the more steady handed launches of PS3/360 went...

That's you, several millions of others are looking forward to those games...

So, let me guess this straight. It's a failure because it's done better than the 360 and nearly as well as the PS3 (so far)? I don't get this logic at all...

I've logged in 32 hours so far. It's....amazing.

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Yeah, that is true...there has been a bigger push of young people using it in Japan, but I wonder how many use the other services more.

Yeah, but the problem is that you can't see what they're doing at all. They're just doing it for you. With someone there in there in the room or a well done video tutorial, they can see the buttons and stick movements....I don't think you can see what the other person is doing with the controller with this, if you…

You're not alone. I mean it's kinda cool for a few things but I don't think this move to "social gaming" is really that great...I don't see the big deal of it.

I think the biggest problem is all the Facebook stuff with the social networking. If that's the only option, it could be an issue in Japan (Hell, it could be an issue in the West too). Sure, they're just getting around to it being popular over there but it's still not really used that much compared to local social…