Well, no, my comment history isn’t perfectly neutral. But yeah I do try to not bag on parts of car culture that I don’t subjectively love. If something is objectively bad, then I think it’s fair game.

A fair point

How often have Jalops complained of people buying crossovers instead of wagons? Jalops also complain of manicured ladies driving in giant Tahoes or Hummers. As a matter of fact, I am also guilty of joining in the fray and point to the superior driving experience from the manual transmission. All are personal judgment…

I see crossovers in the mall all the time, but for some reason Jalops aren’t happy with the existence of crossovers, even though they are used for their intended purpose: family hauler of children and groceries.

I think that was the point of the post. We deride soccer moms for driving crossovers and SUVs in nothing worse than the concrete jungle, and so the poster is doing exactly the same thing with this Raptor - just suggesting that as a daily driver, it sees more mall time than off road time. Same sort of post really, but…

Thank you for posting this. As a long time Jalopnik reader and self certified Jalop (I’ve owned a Miata, Sportwagen TDI, 128i and currently Accord Sport, all stick shift cars), it amazes me how many Jalops can dish it but can’t take it. Seriously, we complain and judge incessantly about how terrible it is for people…

I wish there were more cheap, basic, small trucks (which is exactly why I have a 2003 S10), but I don’t see a reason to hate on the performance models.

Ugh, I agree with your first paragraph but- really? Beta? SJW? You’re annoyed that someone is stereotying you so you respond by . . . stereotyping others?

What about a V12 / V10 supercar that gets 9 mpg - 15mpg?

While he may not be doing it in the right way, his argument is sound. I don’t think that you did anything wrong by stating your thoughts or preferences here, because you didn’t. However, you should probably consider that there are use cases you didn’t think about.

Sports cars are not track cars. One can enjoy spirited driving in just about any road l, even while staying in the limits of the law. But a vehicle like the Raptor has no place on a any road except on its way to the dirt.

You’re right. The Raptor is at least designed for legitimate purpose and I was wrong to lump it in with the Trackhawk. It’s not the Raptors I have a problem with, it’s the people who drive them.

Seeing some of the Raptors “all of the time” is not the same as seeing all of the Raptors all of the time. And I see plenty of Raptors in places that have no desert within a thousand miles.

Well I guess people own Raptors in the off chance they need to run a load of drugs past Border Patrol, so yeah sure, why not.

Exactly. Pretty much everything that poster said could be applied to any sports car. I guess unless you need a truck for work or are a professional drifter everyone should be driving around in a Camry.

You see Raptors out in the desert in SoCal all the time. I think people use them a lot more than they are given credit for. How often do you go off roading? Of course you see them on the freeway all the time is that’s the only place you drive.

I question the premise; we don’t need another performance truck. We don’t need ANY performance truck. Some percentage of trucks are work trucks, and that’s why the class exists, but the majority of trucks that are sold in this country are mall crawlers and grocery getters. They are far worse than the crossovers that…

Retired federal officer?? I think not! You can’t even spell or use the English language correctly. Don’t blame it on typos or your phone’s keyboard, because we all know better. If you were truly a federal officer, you would have never made it with the inability to write.

“Bitch” was definitely an inappropriate remark in the above post, but everything else you say after that is weapons grade stupid. Even if Clinton and JFK were worse (You would be hard pressed to find many people that actually agree with that notion, but whatever), it wouldn’t matter because Trump has attained shit…