It’s also a bad narrative because we won the popular vote.

We need to stop using the term “family values.” There’s got to be something more accurate, like “retrograde hatred values.”

She’s a decent enough stand in for the class of liberals who were motivated less by wanting to accomplish anything in particular this election, and more about the abstract idea of revolution and/or a singular visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton.

This point is just about the reddest herring.

It is and it should be, but am I wrong to be put off by Susan’s tweets about it here? She’s using her support for Standing Rock to deflect from criticism of her political choices and it feels kinda gross to me. I don’t know.

Love it when wealthy insulated people who can run away talk about “the revolution.” Seriously, fuck this woman. I don’t think she had an actual impact on the election, she’s not relevant enough to swing more than maybe a dozen voters, but I am disgusted by her glib attitude.

She is far down, but she is typical of people who sit on their moral high horses. and sometimes those people need to be called out on their bullshit.

But she’s on the list. She’s a smug, rich, insulated idiot who imagines herself to be a great political philosopher of the left. Nothing in her privileged and graceful life has ever exposed her to real risk or hardship. I’m sure she can endure a few tweets from Debra Messing.

agreed, she’s just a head above most, due to the soapbox she’s standing on.

“I love money. I love everything about it. I bought some pretty good stuff. Got me a $300 pair of socks. Got a fur sink. An electric dog polisher. A gasoline powered turtleneck sweater. And, of course, I bought some dumb stuff, too.”

Of course he got the big heavy massage chairs from Brookstone- I think they’re the D Series Massage Collection. If he was smarter, he’d have gotten the smaller, lighter, but superior E-Series. I think we all know, though, that Flacco would never buy the E lite.

But cities are where the people are. Money invested in cities goes much further than money invested in rural areas. When the money that the government has is finite (limited stimulus pacakage for instance), it’s easy to see that putting money into urban areas will do more good for more people. Living in a rural area…

Amen! You nailed it. I grew up in a mixed rural/suburban county in Ohio that went heavily to Trump. I would like to add that progressives who pen hand-wringing missives about needing to “get out of our bubble” and understand these voters should SHUT THE FUCK UP. The reason there are urban blue islands is in part…

Lol, no things are not “great”. Not even close. I can think of a bunch of countries that have a better average standard of living, less crime, less poverty, better educational opportunities, better medical care and etc.

So you’re saying kids in rural areas, which have always had higher rates of suicide than urban areas, are killing themselves because “there’s nothing to do in your town anymore.”

Lol, sure, white people voted for the Orange Man because everyone around them is dying. I’m sure he will help.

Regardless of income, whiteness is the most important factor. I really don’t care about the income angle, but I won’t let white people try to lay this at the feet of poor, backwoods white people only. It was white people at every level—rich, poor, educated, uneducated, religious, not religious, women, and men.

“Fuck that kid.”

Paterno probably could have avoided the injury had he not been too busy looking the other way.

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