This myth that PHEV owners dont plug in their cars is a pile of baloney perpetuated by the fanatical EV lobby. I’ve owned a Chevy Volt for 5+ years and all I have to do is plug it into my garage 120v overnight to be fully charged in the morning. By doing so I have driven over 80,000 EV Kms and saved myself a boatload…

I’m sorry you think it’s “wone” to write that the planet cannot absorb billions more tons of CO2.

or we can stop screwing around and really embrace work from home. Since june of 2020, I’ve put all of 8000 miles on my car, because I work from home 4 days a week. I mean, it’s huge the amount of gas I don’t use anymore - so little that frankly, gas prices don’t mean anything to me when i only hit half a tank after 30…

I have a 2014 Prius and I love it. Fill it up a couple of times per year. Honestly I need to find more reasons to drive it because it’s mostly a get-out-of-town car, but I love that gas isn’t really a concern at all.

Of course, I can’t say about the new Camry, but in 2022, I ended up with a Camry SE and a Rav4 XLE as rentals.

There is phenomenal stand-up bit by the late John Pinette about this, but told through the lens of the extended warranty on a TV from Best Buy:

Well you know what Toyota stands for, right?

Four of those machines were maybe cars. I don’t want a truck and I don’t want to drive my living room around town.

A normal bike isn’t a Cervelo Soloist, that’s a $3,000 bike...

But I don’t trust the traffic.

We have ebikes, but only ride them on vacation / camping trips.  I’d like to take advantage of riding into work if it didn’t include 4miles of rural 2 lane roads, with minimal shoulders and 8 miles of 4 lane highways without side walks or bike lanes.  And all of that has traffic flowing 55 - 60mph.

I would ride the shit out of an E-bike or E-motorcycle on nice days to work. 8 miles one way. But I don’t trust the traffic.

You mean to tell me this guy won’t be an easy guy to have a nice fair and balanced discussion about, well anything?

It was an e90 series M3 and it actually returned better fuel economy then the Prius in that test. Of course asking an M3 to follow a Prius going full out is like asking an Olympic runner to follow a mall walker for 10 minutes. That was an older Prius though.  I’m pretty sure the results would be different with a…

Not sure I agree with the Prius one -- my buddy and I did Boston to Quebec in his Prius Prime -- we were flying on the highway and all I know we did the entire roundtrip on half a tank of gas.

The Prius example should not be here. Why do you disrespect someone in a Prius doing 80 and not just ‘everyone doing 80'. Unless there is some magic where a Prius suddenly becomes less efficient than other cars at high speeds, this makes no sense. If anything, the Prius is the car to buy if you want to travel at high…

Prius counterpoint: I just did a ~3400 mile roadtrip in my 2017. Much of it was done at ~80mph through places like Texas.

Any car with 5% tint on front windows and 35% on the windshield - except in the extremely rare case of legitimate medical reasons

Claim: after accounting for direct and indirect subsidies, including various government subsidies, the “True Cost” to fuel an EV on a per-gallon-equivalent basis is $17.33.

“ablative material”  is DESIGNED to come off.  The hot material flakes away taking the heat with it.  It probably ablated MORE than they expected but that’s not how it reads to me.