Situation where you have an instructor and they want you to do it great. Track day where the guy behind you may not know what to do if you loose the drift, very bad.
If your on track in your personal car, do you want some yahoo throwing his car around in front of you “trying stuff out”? So when he pitches is $3k…

Please never be at a track day with me. If you think this is how an event should be run, I want to be far away.

There is no “triple black flag” that happens at once. He did dumb things three times and got three separate flags.

Stef’s comment is correct. Track days are a controlled environment ergo all cars should be under the same level of control. There’s plenty of unexpected shit that still happens on a normal track day so the goal is to keep that at a minimum.

This also seems like a beginner group to me based on the speeds and lines but I don’t know COTA that well. Anyway it seems like he’d get one black flag and sit out and then go back and NOT drift....if he did the same thing over again on purpose he should be kicked out. You got your warning.

Most track days I’ve been on are very clear in the briefing, drift and you’re out. I’m sure it’s delighful, but rules are rules and getting black flagged three times means you’re being a walking penis.

You explained it perfectly. That’s why drift events and DE’s are 2 separate things.

I’m sorry. The rules clearly state in every track day I have done that powersliding/drifting is prohibited. If the rules state that, then yes, he deserved every bit of it. You’re paying for a privilege to drive on a Formula 1/Sports Car Racing track. Respect it and its officials as such. Don’t abuse the privilege.

I’m pretty sure most of the other cars on that track also have plenty of horsepower to just hammer the turns and drift their cars but there is a reason they don’t. Driving a quifiglio or whatever it’s called doesn’t make the dude special. black flag the douche

The predictability factor aside, it’s not fun to be the guy behind them partially blinded by smoke, especially if you’re pushing hard and trying to find a braking or turn-in point. COTA is known for being quite strict on trackday policies but this doesn’t surprise me; he absolutely deserved them.

At the track events (HPDEs) that I go to, yes, you would be black flagged for that. It’s not punitive. They just want to make sure from you and your instructor that you understand the line, braking technique, etc.

The problem is that you’re on track with a bunch of other people. The dirty little secret of track days is that lots of people there aren’t technically insured while on track.

Because when you’re hooning and everyone else is not, your car has entirely different driving dynamics than the rest of the field. Your car moves differently, which means it’s a hazard to the field.

The fact that he got flagged 3 sessions in a row and they say he “may” not be invited back is actually fairly surprising.…

A track day is not for drifting. Period. It’s not teaching the skills to do it, other drivers aren’t expecting it, and being the only one doing it makes you look sorta dumb.

Nice powersliding, sure... but they deserved the black flags they got. If they want to do that, go to their local drift event where its sanctioned. That type of driving has no place at a public track day. I’m not entirely sure what they expected as they assuredly had to sit through a driver’s meeting and received some…

Having done a few of these in my past, it’s usually up to the event organizer to explain what is not permissible during the drivers briefing. They’re supposed to explain what offenses will get you black flagged. There’s always some subjectivity to on-track offenses, so while he might have gotten a black flag for the…

Start vaping, get a flat-peak baseball cap and go to a drift event, track days are not for drifting, they never have been and they never will be. He may not like it, but nearly all track day organizers are unanimous about this sort of thing.

France will smell like armpit and cigarettes as god intended.

Crossovers are a great sell to folks who want “one car that does everything” (it’s comfy, fuel economy’s OK, I can pack my family or friends into it, or gear for camping or activities! Yadda yadda). Wagons do most of that with a slight bent toward better handling and economy, but aren’t offered by manufacturers to…

Look, we’ve basically got station wagons back, not sure why everyone is so upset. And seriously, park a CR-V next to a regular VW station wagon- it’s not that much taller.