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Mar 6
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There isn’t, tho, despite what you might want there to be. There’s the side that the medical and psychiatric professionals, trans people, and allies are on. And then there’s the side you’re on.

Mar 6
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Oh gosh yeah I’m totally the flip side of the same coin as someone who literally thinks trans people ought to die. Sounds like some pretty enlightened centrist bullshit. Amazing how “reality” is your weird, genitals-essentialist point of view, which is shared by none of the following: Read more

Mar 5
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Trans women are women. Cis women are women. Trans women aren’t cis women. But intentionally excluding trans women from the definition of “women” is a shitty thing to do, and insisting on doing so is kind of definitionally transphobia. If you don’t like being called a transphobe, maybe don’t say transphobic things? Read more

Mar 5
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Do you get yours from websites with names like “PatriotNewZ.freedom”? Or are you more of the sort of person who gets theirs from orgs with insidiously vague names like “Women For Recognition Of Women’s Places”?

Mar 5
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So infertile women aren’t “full women” in your estimation? My friend (who is currently pregnant) only has one ovary, is she less of a woman? What about my other friend, who had to have a hysto because she had cancer, is she less of a woman? Is your definition of womanhood solely dependent on a woman’s ability to have Read more

Mar 4
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Okay so: Trans people are also biological. Trans women who have medically transitioned are female. So the phrase “biological female” is not particularly accurate, in the way that I assume you mean it. Read more

Mar 3
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I think this argument would carry more water if there was any evidence of it actually happening, or studies showing it to be the case. And high school sports are certainly not on the same level as Olympic athletes. Plus, you yourself pointed out that advantages are cumulative-and having low muscle mass is certainly a Read more

Mar 3
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I’m not claiming it’s simple or easy, just that there is a path forward that produces at least a reasonable facsimile of fairness. If someone comes out in their junior year, they would probably have to make a decision between medical transition and competitive sports. It’s not an easy decision, but sometimes you have Read more

Mar 3
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Which is why the hormones thing is important to acknowledge.

Mar 3
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I mean, you have multiple people pointing out that you’re coming off as an asshole here.

Mar 3
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And you also called her, in order of appearance, “dude”, “dude”, “guy”, “male”. Misgendering can include other things than pronouns, friendo.

Mar 3
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I just looked him up, and the wikipedia article specifically mentioned that his lack of muscle mass strongly limited his usefulness. And, again, I’m not arguing that it isn’t an advantage, just that it’s not the end-all be-all that you are making it out to be. There are a lot of tall people who are not gonna rocket up Read more

Mar 3
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How is trans people living their lives doing any of the things you are fearful about here? 

Mar 3
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It becomes a bit muddier when you realize that most folks are not arguing for such a hardline stance as this article (i.e. every person who IDs as a woman is a woman and should be able to compete in women’s sports). Most people recognize that T provides an advantage, and argue instead that trans women should be able Read more

Mar 3
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“All other things being equal” is where this argument falls apart. Muscle mass is strongly T-dependent. If someone who is 6ft tall with, say, 65 lbs of muscle mass suddenly loses 15 lbs of muscle mass, that height advantage is not going to matter a whole lot. Trying to move the same frame with significantly less Read more

Mar 3
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Because that which seems obvious does not always equate to truth. https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbt-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked/

Mar 3
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Do you have anything to support that claim beyond the fact that most successful basketball players are tall? Because this may very well be the case that all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. There are plenty of tall women out there, and I don’t see any calls to ban them from the sport.

Mar 3
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I agree that two years is a long time, and it may be that for adolescents, that timeframe is quite different than for adults. We need more studies to help guide this policy. Read more

Mar 3
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Here’s a solution: Trans women who have been on testosterone-blocking drugs for more than two years do not retain a competitive advantage against cis women.