I mean... sort of. She’s not indie by any stretch of the imagination. 

She’s a Grammy winning musician signed to a major label... 

There’s an album release show at 8pm in Detroit.

has nothing to do with him being white, he just overwrites like crazy 

First off, Kanye IS doing his best. It’s just, you know, not great.

Homie she’s 26, you’re saying she shouldn’t dress how she wants because she looks young? And that people shouldn’t appreciate her work because of the implications of how her body looks? Should I also not be watching any Timothee Chalamet movies or...

that all sounds cool as fuck 

i listen to her stellar pop songs but it sounds like you have your own stuff you’re going through, so

yikes 

She closer to Mitski than Angel Olsen, I’d say.

I mean, again, Kanye is one of the most critically lauded acts of the past 20 years, including by the AV Club. I think you’d be surprised here. 

Everyone in this thread pretending to hate Kanye for woke points is still going to listen to this record the day it drops. 

Kids See Ghosts was largely fantastic. His production across the rest of those summer records were fantastic too (even on Nasir, where Kanye brought the heat and Nas brought... something)

My username is sardonic and I agree he’s dig himself into a hole these days, but pretending Kanye isn’t a one of the most lauded and successful artists of the 21st century is some mad revisionist nonsense. 

Psst their first record is Almost Killed Me and it’s great

Can you imagine someone seriously arguing at any point in history that Of Montreal or Rilo Kiley were the best rock bands on the planet? Or that they’re even... rock bands? The Hold Steady, meat and potatoes as they were, absolutely outshone every actual rock band you listed for a few years (so basically Spoon and the…

I actually was talking about Lifter Puller, as that’s where Craig developed his entire schtick as a frontman. Musically Hold Steady pulls way more from heartland and bar rock but Craig’s delivery is still that same gutteral song-speak that’s clearly indebted to all the punk he still writes constantly about. 

You should revisit Separation Sunday. Boys and Girls mostly feels like a more kitschy version of that one, which for my money is their single undisputed triumph. 

This is a strange stance to take and makes me think you’re not a fan of all the punk and post-hardcore that forms the backbone of the Hold Steady. 

Teeth Dreams is very easily their worst record though.