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Because following around his auntie like a pet servant and eventually boning her is more important.

Since the Queen's pet Northerner knelt to him, that isn't the case. He is now her servant.

Of course, she isn't going to do so because she wants all of Westeros to be her slaves.

Yeah. Jon should be dumped back over the Wall for selling out the North into slavery under another Targaryen tyrant because he wants to get in her pants. Discuss amongst yourselves.

She just murdered two POWs who wouldn't kneel. There is nothing to suggest that she won't end up executing Jon as well after he inevitably kneels to her and prostrates before her as some servant and she finds out her new submissive subject/ lover has say a better claim on the Throne than she does.

Or she is a queen and sees him as her servant and subject who she can order around and even execute. It is not a relationship of equals but one of Dany as the monarch and Jon as her servant.

I didn't give you permission to leave is how a queen speaks about her servant, not how she speaks to an equal monarch.

And I will register my hatred for the millionth time of the awful dom-sub Dany-Jon relationship. I hated The Queen's Council scene where she was going to force Jon to remain there because she sees him as a servant and she is queen. Just shut up already Dany.

"Wait a minute!!! Randall Tarley was a traitor to his own liege. His treachery lead to Olenna's death and the utter destruction of House Tyrell. "

Well, the show should not make Dany into some enlightened leader when she is not that better than Cersei or Stannis.

Well, a large part of Westeros is not under her control at the beginning to the season. Both the North and the Vale have pledged to the Starks and that is half of Westeros. And even with evil leaders, remember that Euron won an election, which suggests that the Iron Islands are cool with his form of evil and do not

I am still fine with the idea it is bad.

Yes. And it is slavery and it is interesting that someone who supposedly abhors slavery is a slavemaster.

If she believes she is the only legitimate option, why has she spent most of the season obsessing over getting Jon to kneel? Jon is probably the most enlightened and liberal ruler in Westeros, so her obsession with getting the North to kneel to her goes against this idea that she just wants the best for the commoners

Serve or die… So serve me as your slave or I will kill you. So Dany is offering slavery. Jon in your scenario is legitimately her slave. That is not really that different from what Cersei is offering.

Dany stating she is breaking the wheel is hypocritical. It seems like she is just creating a world where it benefits Daenerys Targaryen rather than any commoners. The commoners have a choice to either kneel and serve her like they did the Lannisters or be burnt alive by Dragonfire.

Killing unarmed POWs is against the rules of war and she uses a particularly brutal manner to do so. Kneel or die is the same old wheel and Dany is basing her claim on blood. She is just recreating the old world except this time it is one that benefits Daenerys Targaryen instead of Cersei Lannister. It would be

Dany is not a competent female leader. She burns prisoners alive and is losing a war to Cersei Lannister. My issue is that the fact that she is brutal and power hungry and the fact that she is not even competent while being brutal like Tywin gets whitewashed by the show and she is portrayed as some awesome feminist

I do because the showrunners dislike Jon and love Dany. And even if they do marry Jon wouldn't be ruling. It would be some sort of emasculated consort situation.

I think that we are veering into fanfiction territory and they could make Jon and Dany both competent and equal leaders rather than having him as her servant. The story/ relationship may occur in the book without having him subservient to her.