Camera car clearly used the force.

To have 2000 lb car with 230 hp on the street, that would be amazing.

And off to craigslist to look at Buicks I go.

How much does that weigh though? Part of what draws me to cars like BRZ, Miata, etc is that they’re pretty light. BRZ is under 3000 lbs. Is the BWM close?

Nothing to do with the same subject? Are you slow? Mazda having a rwd sportscar and turboing like we’re asking to be done with brz and that has nothing to do with the conversation? GM taking a rwd sportscar and turboing like we’re asking to be done to the brz and that has nothing to do with conversation? You even…

VAGUE? LOLOLOLOLOL. given the literal detritus you’re responding with while I’m over here citing specific examples and sources. Vague LOL.

lol we’re “clueless”. Kay.

“’Not enough power,’ the peasants moan. But you, dear peons of society, don’t know what you’re talking about. Want more power? Get a Mustang. This is about having fun.”

Yes, citing to instances where what we are talking happen in real life is a solid argument. Especially because GM and Mazda did the same thing with even more hurdles to overcome. As manufacturing, turbo, 3d modeling technology has progressed the hurdles should be easier to overcome. Matter of fact, the Ecotec that was…

If you’re going to take the tack of “the car doesn’t exist why care” then why did you debate about it for so long? LOLOL Come on. As for why it matters, it comes down to who’s opinion has more substance, and we know who’s that is. (It me).

Hey, I haven’t heard from you. You ready to admit that my claims have a stronger basis in reality now vs. yours? I believe I’ve addressed all your points you’ve made. And owned you several times. Get back to me bud.

And the price of a base model Miata back in 2004 was $21868 according to: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/mia… which according to your handy little calculator is $27,698.04 in today’s dollars. MSRP of a Miata on Mazda USA’s website right now? $24915. Oh would you look at that, car prices don’t necessarily match…

Please reply back with more. First you brought up the technical reasons why this can’t be done. When we showed you evidence of where that wasn’t the case now you’re making arguments about “business cases” that 99gts is owning you on. Please keep going. This is great.

Yes the R&D has been done. Subaru did the R&D when the designed the FA20DIT for the WRX.

No, because a “loaded” BRZ is $30k and its futile to try and discuss this stuff if you’re going to argue “loaded” and optioned out. Those options can get real silly real quick. You can add %50 to some cars msrp’s with options.

That’s the best you got? Just admit that what I’m saying makes more sense, has more factual basis in reality then what you’re coming up with.

Owned owned owned.

BRZ on Subaru’s webpage MSRP is $25395. Now then, Subaru is somehow able to sell a car that is very similar to the BRZ with a turbo, with awd, with two extra doors for just $26695, which is just $1300 more. But putting this turbo they already have on the BRZ, skipping the awd system, will somehow make the BRZ…

A. Subaru DOESN’T NEED THE CAPITAL. The r&d has been done. Mazda is a tiny company.

Where do you get a $30k+ car number from?