Yeah that’s fair. I guess I mean, something you could reasonably use to like take 7 people and some decent amount of luggage on a road trip, which you can absolutely NOT do in an X7 (or even 6 people b/c captains chairs and 2 seat 2nd row).

If it was closer in size to the X7, it wouldn’t be an Escalade. I think Caddy will eventually make an electric XT6, which is more X7-sized. You don’t buy an Escalade because you want something small. You buy it for zero-compromises 3 row size. The rear seat in an X7 is strictly for kids. 

Yeah looking at the Lets model, they’re mixing dough from flour and water on the spot for each pizza... How does that work? It seems like it would be garbage.

Ha even better

Lol how you scoff at rebadged Korean cars when this is a Chinese car. 

Just drop in that Salvage Title bit at the end there lol

GT Premium Fastback with the Performance Pack and the High Premium package. That silver color looks pretty rad. 

Damn. Every time I see one of these on the road I’m struck by how beautiful it is, but it is so damned expensive. Weirdly enough, many of the people who can afford one of these are the types of people who say “electric just isn’t ready yet.” Frustrating.

I guess I’m one of the few people that likes the design. Hate the econo-car interior though. Also, the price. Also the product tie-in. So no dice, but I think the body has always looked nice and don’t get the hate for the styling. 

I agree. It’s a good design from the outside and a V8 convertible is definitely unique. Problem is they cheaped out on the interior for some reason. If they made the inside look like a boat, this car would work. The inside looks like a fucking Ford Contour and is such a mystifyingly bad decision.

Aren’t they only struggling because they’re having manufacturing issues? I believe demand is outstripping supply, right?

What a shithole state

I think the UX is going to be bizarre and unlivable

It’s the platonic ideal of Lexus’ angry chunk wedge predator design. I actually like it a lot. 

Never!

I’m not bitching about the free car!

Okay great. Your tone tells me you’re quite the pleasant person. I don’t think owning a used car should require doing all of your own wrenching. I’ve owned lots of used cars over the years and I’m not a mechanic. That is a pretty questionable take. Besides, I’ve got two little kids at home and fuck-all time for like…

I only have 100 amp service at my house and upgrading to 200 amps will be at least $5k

Sweet spot on this would be $50k. That’s what people generally wind up paying for their 3 row SUVs, so if it’s competitive with that, it seems like an easy win. If it’s a 30% bump, then you’re not going to sell them

I mean, marketing a 2 row minivan in the US seems pretty dumb. Going full 3 row was the right play. Still there should be non-luxo models.