I find this show to be breathtakingly sad. As a culture, despite our robust self-image, we are insensitive in the extreme. This show illustrates how isolating it is to be in the downstream of inconsiderate or insensitive behavior.

If the point was to unify her into the existing group of already unified boys, you might have an argument. But somehow her having sex with each individual boy unifies the whole group? It somehow bring the boys together as well as her and the boys? How exactly is that supposed to work? “We all had sex with her, so we…

Haha! You’re funny. He’s describing what literally happens in the book. They have sex (so their relationship is no longer Platonic), and the girl is described as for the most part not enjoying it, and doing it to bring the group back together. So this is a perfect example of the utilitarian take on female sexuality.

So is she pursuing some kind of charges? Or looking into suing or anything? We know that trusting the police to police themselves is a joke.

She is doing exactly that. She’s just correctly noting that it is not the job of a nurse to investigate criminal wrong doing. Remember: “In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute…

Maybe, but nothing was done by the SLPD until this video went viral. This incident happened a month ago so if nothing was done until the video was released either the cop didn’t report his behavior and neither did his partner or they gave a false version of it or they told the truth and their superior officers were…

Good. There are no good cops. Just accomplices.

Again, this all goes back to that whole “men have potential, women have a past” nonsense. That rape accusations are wildly out of control (they aren’t, in fact, they’re UNDER reported), and that our culture has suddenly shifted from a patriarchy that protects males to one that is letting all kinds of lawsuits against…

This woman seems to think that men rape out of desperation. I mean, Bill Cosby probably didn’t have to “work that hard” to get women either. Some people are just sick fucks.

I married my husband at 18. He was 9 years older. We’ve been married 32 years. So, I don’t think age is necessarily the inappropriate factor if the other party is legally and adult, although it can be depending upon circumstances.

As someone who has observed two of these relationships, I agree that it’s not okay, even if the student isn’t in the class. It’s the whole power/ego dynamic. In one case, the professor manipulated the student into staying around and ruining her career chances in the profession. In other case, the prof dropped the…

Pretty sure Kipniss is among the 53% of college educated white women who voted for Trump.

Let me interject a brief reality check: single non-hideous men with good jobs (or, in this case, an international reputation and not without charm) don’t have to work that hard to get women to go to bed with them in our century.

It’s also possible she’s been in similar situations (either as professor or student) and doesn’t want to regard them as coercive.

I like Against Love, which was Kipnis’ early book, but now she just seems sloppy. A professor and student being in a relationship is not okay. If nothing else, a professor doesn’t only teach one student. They teach and evaluate a whole class. I’m willing to bet Kipnis would not be willing to be judged, in this…

With what power? What sorts of repercussions can there possibly be if the student refuses?

Yes to all of this. She obscures her own (not very rhetorically coherent) point behind layers of strawman and polemic arguments. It reads very much like a defense of professor/student relationships because they have value as a “learning tool,” and it does nothing but flippantly dismiss all of the bad things (for…

Did you read the piece? I agree that the students’ reaction to it was weird, out of step, but. Her piece is basically one big whine about how professors aren’t allowed to date students anymore, which, forgive me, but I don’t see why that’s a problem of feminism, or even a problem at all.

I think you’re reacting pretty fairly. I was lied to about the alcohol content of a beverage, and had too much and passed out. Then the man who raped me did just that. He had planned that. He knew I had said that I only wanted to have X drinks because I had taken medicine for menstrual cramps, and that I didn’t want…

How? She basically waxes nostalgically about student/teacher relationships: