How do these people not know how to google? This was the first result when I googled 'how do you address a trans person'. I think these people shouldn't be surprised when I call them bigots... 'cause so often they're intellectually dishonest when asking questions like that.

"Let's set the bar lower for women because women aren't as capable." Which then fails to challenge women to reach their potential, ensuring that stereotypes of women as weaker continue.

I think he either is bullshitting because he knows he done wrong or wasn't paying attention because he didn't care and is bullshitting…

But there are only Male and Female11111111 Science sez so111111

Once I hear that binary fallacy shit, I tend to stop giving the person I'm arguing with any credence.

Well, it's all a matter of perspective... I can be fairly hard-minded at times and unaccepting.

Yes, it can be... but we should call privileged people out more on that, IMO. If we don't call them out, we're just granting them another privilege, I think.

No, that makes sense and squares with my experience... gender, if anything is even four-dimensional: there is a male-female axis with a neutral point where it interests the how-strong-you-feel-gender's axis at the "moderately so" point. Then a non-linear area to the side of that plane of other genders, some of which…

I think the standards Aussies use to determine what's offensive are basically... limited to Australia. After all, Aussies seem to think 'Tranny' is a lovely term.

That said, like I said in an early comment, 'it' may indeed have it's place, but not as a way to address a transwoman. I'd say gender-neutral people have…

Hmm, I'm past the point of taking said dude seriously. To me it already seems he's arguing disingenuously - either lying or so wrapped up in his own privilege he can't see how full of shit he is. But, I'm not a nice person like yourself.

Cool, best of luck to both of you.

we'd be doing a disservice to everyone to conflate the two. one term, 'transgender', encompasses the other, 'transsexual'. that is - all transsexuals are transgender, but not all transgender people are transsexuals. so eliminating the term 'transsexual' in favor of 'transgender' doesn't makes sense, since…

That's cool, I'm glad it's been that way for you and that you feel you can be open like that.

Isn't dyslexia where you get letters in the wrong order?

that's not how burden of proof works.

I really do think there's a lot to be said about the neuroplasticity argument, but there's like room for both explanations. In a sense, our brains evolve our consciousness and identity as time passes, but they're not necessarily tabula rasa, either. Even without hormones, socialization itself could probably have an…

My only objection is there's a degree of variance in how hard-wired gender is in someone's brain, but in a case like Reimer's, it I'd say it's a fair bit. On the other hand, I suppose non-binary genders and gender-fluidity could be hardwired, too. Either way, it's not something determined merely by reproductive organs.

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"Sex is something that has been defined one way for thousands of years" isn't relevant to this discussion. Meaningless red herring.

Well, there's a sequel I never wanted to exist. In fact, the original movie can fuck off, too.

I think that was a thing?

Ah, but while you can find a dichotomy between ignorance and knowledge, that dichotomy isn't the only thing that defines this free-for-all. Nor is it truly a dichotomy - ignorance isn't necessarily absolute. Some people know some things, but not others, after all.

I haven't seen you raise any actual objections to…

I don't actually. That you're wrong about that is irrelevant to this discussion.

But... it simply is. Do you want to play a little game of "Yes it is, not it isn't"? Still won't make you right. Or in other words, your fears don't make your opinion valid - nothing does or can. You can object until we're all dead of old age, but you haven't got shit.