What are they? A rounding error for any other established mainstream auto manufacturer.

I’d expect to see them bought by Chery or VAG or some other overseas auto manufacturer.

Recalls are honestly nothing to judge a manufacturer for. They’re part of doing business as a car manufacturer, and if Tesla ever gets its shit together they’ll actually be far less likely to get bitten by other companies when it comes to recalls. (See for example, Takata)

I’ve been saying for years that I like what Tesla is trying to do, but people don’t understand that buildings cars is Hard.

I think it’s evolved into a Plymouth V’ger at this point.

What matters is that he wraps himself up in ‘Good Christian’ labeling and acts in almost complete opposite of that, yet because he’s a rich white guy the suckers buy it and let him ‘take a mulligan’ on things like adultery, general douchery, etc.

My very first thought when I saw the headline was “Okay, Jaguar XJS.” for the exact same reasons Torch had. A reliable engine in a British car? People who know will love it, people who don’t know will just think it’s a Jag and consider it amazing anyhow.

Small correction, he’s a “billionaire” until we see his taxes. ;)

Please, even Trump doesn’t read his own terrible shit.

His campaign and other outside groups raised over $400 million, spending just shy of that amount and he apparently threw in a whopping $66 million. I’m just waiting to see how much of that money was involved in or sourced from money laundering proceeds. Here’s hoping.

Like most technologies, they just trickled down from the higher end of the market to becoming a mainstream option. Now, they’re such basic options that anything without them is a stripper.

In part because electric cars cost more money than similar combustion models in the same size class so it’s a way to increase the perceived value proposition for prospective buyers. Also, I would expect, because electric cars are still low volume enough that avoiding the expense of tooling for multiple variants of…

Or maybe they’re made for suburbs, where you may have a commute of 5-20 miles and you don’t have to worry about charging so much. There are a hell of a lot of people who live in areas that would be served just fine.

Sure, I’m not saying you’re wrong about the Supercharger network being a huge advantage for Tesla. The thing to remember though, is that even if the others aren’t as fast they’re still capable of competing.

If they can ever figure out how to build the Model 3, sure, they’ve got a fighting chance.

Until Chinese companies start cranking them out for the other automakers.

If you want any color other than black for a Model 3, it’s $1000 more than the base price of $35k. If you want autopilot, that’s $5000 more. It has 18 miles less range than a Bolt, unless you pay another $9000 for an upgraded battery. That’s $50,000 for a car that will most likely no longer qualify for any tax…

But Henry Ford never blew through the equivalent of over four billion dollars.

It’s all based on that last one. If any other company blew it’s production goals as reliably and as badly as Tesla does, they’d be fucked.

I’m certainly not saying it’s impossible. I’ve just done a little research and found two quarters where Tesla actually made a profit, one quarter making 22 million and another making 15. So 37 million profit with 4.286 billion lost. I mean... there’s nothing to brag about there. And this company is somehow worth 50…