I guess it takes a while to bring those Indian and Brazilian engineering centers online after they liquidated all their engineers in Auburn Hills...

Exactly. 2027 launch?
They’ll ignore that 25K claim and say they needed to price it more for the 2027 market. Probably at 32k, base. 

2027?!
LOL....ok.
How is Stellantis even considered a serious company?
Typically you don’t discontinue products when their replacements are 2, 3...4 years down the line.
And then you whine about falling profits and punish your workers for it?
Trash. 

I’ll throw into the ring, the Merkur XR4Ti.
I used to see a few of these around in the late 90s.
I’d ask around, and nobody knew what a Merkur was.
(Pre Google, more Infoseek/Lycos era).

I’m the most perplexed by the fact that every 5th vehicle around me seems to be a Wrangler.
Don’t get me wrong. I think the Wrangler is super cool.
But this is CHICAGO lol.
Are these people traveling 500mi one way, every other weekend to go trailing?

LMAO....the minivans.
It’s so true.

LOL, it does make me laugh.
Look, I loved my old HEMI Charger, but....what are people doing with these Hellcats? They’re crawling along with me on I294, at 19mph. For what? 

I know, so weird. Not a great Wrangler. Not a great pickup truck.
I think Jeep should’ve just done a Commanche style pickup on the Journey platform and call it a day. 

LOL! Then you’re not a sedan buyer anyway. 

And then they bitch and moan on Facebook, triggering all the boomers, as to why they’re so mad they spent $100 on gas, in less than a week.

Lifted pickups. Especially if they’re diesel.

Well, from what I’ve heard, that window might only be indestructible on other planets?

Laughs in Chicago.

I distinctly remember some authority from DaimlerChrysler, at the time, explaining that Dodge interiors are to be “purposeful” and nothing more.
Well, they certainly took that to heart, and almost punished us with it.
Chrysler wasn’t much better.
The Japanese do not get a free pass IMO.
Those were also some of the most…

“I just hope the dealer and ownership experience can live up to that.”
Hi, coming to you from 2024.
To answer your question, No.
The dealer experience is poop, and Stellantis never seems to have parts available in a timely manner.
They’ve made a beautiful Jeep with a great PHEV system on paper. But cheapened out on the…

Twitter? I hardly know her. 

Apparently lots of them. They’re all over the road around me in the Chicago burbs. Maybe they’re mostly leases too who know. But they’re definitely out there.

They are extra foolish then, to self-inflict such a damaging dry-up of their cashflow. 

I honestly love my ‘23 Grand Cherokee 4xe. It’s the nicest Jeep I’ve ever seen or driven. Luckily mine has been reliable. And as long as I charge every night, I’m getting 45-50mpg/tank.
The design of the hybrid system is sound, and interior materials FINALLY very nice.
The issue is, Stellantis has cost cut to the bone,…

Not anymore at least.
Chrysler’s problem was never how they bolted and welded their bodies together. It was always the cost cutting of many of the vehicle components.
Up until just a couple years ago, vehicles rolling out of Stellantis/Chrysler plants were hundreds of miles better built, with tighter tolerances, than…