To be fair, I was cross-shopping a 2023 rs3 vs. a CPO ~2021-2022 m550i....

‘Ring Track Times are like Dyno Comparisons.

I have a more traditional JL wrangler - 2019, Sahara, 6MT, V6, LSD, 4-door, soft top, cloth interior, few desirable options from the factory. Put 33k miles on it. Bought it in 2019 for ~$42k. KBB says my trade-in value is $34k and private party is $36.5k.

No Dice. Let’s put aside mods for a minute. An S4 is the market equivalent of a BMW 335xi of the same era. This is a ~9.5 year old vehicle with ~71k on the clock. Those, in this class, typically go for 30-40% of MSRP - or about $19-24k, based upon condition. This car is solidly $5k over, likely representative of a…

I’ve driven 300hp FWD cars and the ONLY way to make it driveable is engine management pulling and controlling power output tied to traction.

ND - that’s a $5-8k car, max.

NP. I get the comments on “buy an S” but there is something to be said about the smaller engine and 5-speed trans on these early models.

So why have I scrimped and saved for 20 years, have sizeable finances and a good career, and yet now post COVID I’ve sold my m3 and my 997 turbo and I drive a beat up honda odyssey minivan and a ‘19 jeep wrangler.

So let me get this straight:

I once picked up a ‘83 528e 5-speed manual in boston with 323k miles on it and drove it home, 6 hours, without a pre purchase inspection.

2018 Dodge Journey. That’s my bet. Jay probably tried to help some hapless motorist and the Journey was biding it’s time to strike. 

I see all the comments nay-saying standardization of roadways and applying machine-readable markers...

Haven’t flown international for business since 2019, but when I did I had an eye opening experience. I needed to fly to Amsterdam for a 2 day conference. I was allowed to purchase a direct, business class ticket. The cost was $10k if I flew PHL to Amsterdam and all other local airports were similar in cost. I couldn’t…

If this is actually as good in person as it is in pictures, then I pray the Honda Civic of all vehicles starts to drive design direction for more “upscale” sports cars.

This looks like the successor to the f80 m3 to me, which is a good thing.

You read me backwards. 

If I’m reading this right they did a wheels/suspension/brake/tire package and a bunch of questionable trim/coloring and charged $16k for it to add “emotion” to the vehicle?

Mechanically and functionally, I love it. But that’s alot of interior design compromises that you’d have to live with every day....for $46k and change.

I’m going to skip commenting on price, but that weight is insane. Ford did something groundbreaking years ago with Aluminum bodies and, I think, weight-savings of ~800 pounds. In that 2015 MY, the weight of the f150 was 4,093-4900 pounds according to Ford online resources. Autoblog listed a supercab 3.5 liter turbo…

Ford focus owners?