Buddy, I’m all done this internet fight. Here’s the deal:

I’m considering a 997.1/997.2 911 turbo OR a 991.2 C4S as a replacement for my f80 m3 and I’m learning to love the tail. It’s a thang of beauty. And it’s gonna get real hard to find 4 functioning seats (2 for kids) + manual transmission + high HP AWD robust engines + limited electronic nannies.

Good heavens man, you didn’t actually check your source data? WTF.

I must’ve missed that incorrect data point. I’m sorry I didn’t repeat it without checking or challenging that facetious metric.

Let’s get something straight: There is NOTHING WRONG WITH A FOUR CYLINDER ENGINE IN A SPORTS CAR.

Really pushing the limits of desirable power in a FWD platform. That being said, it’s amazing what has been done to put power down effectively without messing up steering in today’s FWD hot compacts. My favorite/least favorite is 1st-3rd gear throttle damping at the edges of traction capability.

Had a ‘99 boxster....

Thank you.

Can we just call this for what it is: Travel for leisure is conspicuous consumption. It is not environmentally friendly. Period. Full stop.

And what would you spend your money on when your income is $500k-$1 million per day, every day, in perpetuity?

I’ve owned a 2001 M5 and driven the e39 various models a good bit - 528, 530, and 540 in manual transmission.

Sports car purchase for a life altering diagnosis means you gotta get something crazy....

I wanted one of these badly when I was making $35k a year and couldn’t afford it. I wound up buying a 2006 Civic SI in February 2006 instead - a technically superior car and yet...

Love the concept, even kinda like the shade-tree mechanic execution, but that price is crazy.

I forget the details but there was a story of a writer who picked up an air-cooled 911 on behalf of a customer - I believe driving from Texas to CA -and who “topped off” at a gas station on the route to make sure he had plenty of fuel for the next leg. Wound up he was topping off with diesel coming out of a gas pump…

I’m a big fan of honda - and Mazda for that matter. I owned a 2006 Civic SI until 2012 and about 120k miles. They do offer some excellent value models; their top-tier hatchbacks don’t appear to fall in that realm and so I objected to Kristen’s words.

“We already know Honda Civics tend to give you a lot of car for not very much money.”

Every once in awhile NpOCP hits it out of the park with something not worth the money and yet totally worth it for the memories and ridiculousness and yet reasonable functionality.

From a performance standpoint, this is Porsche NOT limiting the platform to the slower transmission.

I don’t really accept that as an excuse. Building to the test is conceptually fine but this is a fairly standard real world example. Those results SUCK and yet other models of the same era (i.e. volvo) were building far safer vehicles.