Wtf? 178 HP is plenty for the purpose of this engine. That’s entirely class competitive under the hood of something like a Mazda 3 or CX-30. My regukar Mazda 3 has roughly this amount of power and is plenty for the average driver. Hell, my Suzuki Samurai with only 60HP can hold 70-75 just fine on reasonably flat…

Fleetwood! The flagship needs to be a stately as hell Cadillac Fleetwood Bro-ham.

Great. I better get a Fleetwood Bro-ham out of this and it better have an interior worthy of a Rolls-Royce.

“Remember, car manufacturers aren’t doing any market research and are just forcing people to buy things they don’t like." GM has a history of poor market research and selling vehicles people don't like.

I agree on performance. But what’s wrong with the quality? They seem to hold up pretty well. Just got rid of an '05 M6 with 220,000 trouble free miles.

I think decidedly is correct in terms of the vehicle itself if not sales. Sit inside a new Navigator. Given GM's history, I have a hard time believing they're capable or willing to design such an excellent interior. Lincoln has done a complete 180 from where they were 10 years ago.

The type of person who would go through the trouble of towing with an EV would find this solution to be dirty and uncouth.

As long as they last, we probably have another decade of them too lol

Leaf springs and a solid axle are fine for a regular working pickup, even in 2020. Ford designed these things to be durable and cost effective. A useless lowered performance truck wasn’t the goal. As much as this costs, it should have a custom independent rear swap for it's intended use.

The schizophrenic nature of the Fiero is reflective of GM’s history as a whole. No other car company has had so many great ideas... Also no other car company has executed as many great ideas so poorly. GM builds generally reliable, well performing and long lasting powertrains (except Olds diesel) but puts their…

Isn't the preorder deposit only $100 and refundable? I thought I heard Doug DeMuro mention that. That's the only reason they have that many preorders. Only a small fraction will turn into actual sales.

Nevermind that this thing is actually useless as a truck. But yes, continue to bask in the glory of your self-righteousness.

I’m sort of in line with your take, but I don’t think the Elon cultist people you mentioned will actually buy it. Instead, they’ll sit there and shame actual truck buyers for buying a truck that’s actually useful and a good value whenever this thing inevitably flops in the market.... and it WILL flop. The only people…

My most powerful vehicle only makes 160HP. One of them makes mid double digits horsepower. I’ve just always fancied myself as a slow car fast kind of guy. One of those vehicles even has 4.9L of displacement.... 145HP on that old truck (if I remember right).

I wish people were actually buying these things for practical reasons like towing. If this were the case, actual useful truck SUVs would be the big sellers. Instead, we get the useless crossover. The smaller the crossover, the more useless. I can’t believe people are dumb enough to pay the price premium of a compact…

Forget small vans. Suzuki needs to come back and give us the new Jimmy. My ‘86 Samurai is getting a bit long in the tooth!

This! I also find it funny that the same people who make fun of non-enthusiasts for buying new are the same people who wonder why nobody is buying new cars with manuals (so they get discontinued). If you want to save the manuals, actually do your part and buy one new so manufacturers have the incentive to keep making…

The Hemi is a pushrod mill, not DOHC. That's why it's still a 2 valve engine.

I would venture a guess and say that they don’t sell more fun vehicles like this because you wonderful enthusiast idiots just buy them used and that leaves a very small number of normal people willing to buy them new- especially if it has a manual transmission. This is the answer to every question about why an…

Until about a year ago, my local Dodge dealer here in Cleburne, Texas had a 2007 Dodge Ram 3500 listed under “new” on their website at $31,000.