It also happened in three stories from the classic series (The Three Doctors, with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd all meeting; The Five Doctors, with the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th meeting - and the 4th kind of nominally involved; and The Two Doctors, with the 2nd and 6th Doctors meeting). And of course is happening for a fifth…

The meetup between the 2nd and 6th Doctors in "The Two Doctors" definitely also just sort of happened.

This version of Simm's Master felt a lot more like the Delgado or Ainley Master than did the version of Simm's Master we saw in the Davies era, I thought.

Or why the Third Doctor didn't remember everything that happened in The Three Doctors from the time he experienced them as the Second Doctor, for that matter, to go back to the original multiple Doctor story.

Okay, since you're obviously not picking up on this, you mean the *13th Doctor*, right? Capaldi is the 12th Doctor. The 14th Doctor hasn't been cast yet, and won't be for years.

Yeah, Holmes and Dicks are the closest to Moffat in terms of Doctors written for TV (Holmes: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; Dicks 1,2,3,4,5).

Also, assuming you do mean the 13th Doctor, you can't "spoil" some bullshit speculation you made up based on hints in articles.

I'm confused. Is the numbering of Doctors like a building where you skip the 13th floor?

I think that was the implication. Which means we don't actually see a *regenerated* Master until Jacobi, since both Ainley and Roberts were possessions by whatever's left of the Delgado Master.

Agreed! If we could get Jacobi and have "The Three Masters" (or Jacobi and whoever replaces Gomez for "The Four Masters"!), even better. Though, you know, you also need a good story.

Hartnell and Hurndall, or Delgado and Ainley, were playing the same character. Sometimes in their first or second episodes, we can see a new Doctor actor kind of playing his predecessor as he gets his own footing (Pertwee in Spearhead from Space, e.g., is clearly kind of playing Troughton's Doctor for a while. Not the…

The *14th* Doctor.

The classic series really had only two classic Masters, and Delgado was dead by the time the idea would make sense. An Ainley/Pizzaface team-up wouldn't really have worked.

Moffat's not perfect, of course, and he's written his share of clunkers ("The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe," I'm looking at you), but the idea that he can't write a good story is silly. His Davies era stories are uniformly good. Very solid self-contained one-offs in his own era include The Eleventh Hour, A…

At the time, we never saw Doctors 1-8 or 9's involvement with that, either.

Yes, he was wearing a raggy overcoat as Razor. After he takes off the mask, you see him start to take the overcoat off, and then he's wearing a snazzy black suit with black shirt in the final scene.

Not to mention the ridiculous disguise.

You saw a picture of the 14th Doctor?!

The Ainley Master destroyed half the universe in Logopolis.

I think you're letting your own preconceptions and the shibboleths of classic Who fandom color your reactions here. You know what are also "far out of place in a 2017 show"? Marching Tin Robot Cybermen.