@SkipErnst: "First, a right is something which you have by very nature of your birth and cannot be taken away from you"

@Asraiil: you're making a lot of assertions without proving anything.

@jms: two separate issues.

@Asraiil: but it can't RESTRICT your access. again, this topic is a clusterfuck from the gitgo because of how poorly it was initially stated.

@Asraiil: "so at some point your model breaks down."

@Asraiil: "The right to own a gun doesn't mean everyone gets one."

on a more general note about "entitlements".

@Grr, Argh!: well one is enough to prove the OPs assertion that" rights do not compel others" wrong.

@Asraiil: "They were forced to stop acting in a way that was not equal to everyone. "

@waclark57: again, the question was wrong to begin with. it's not about provision, it's about access.

@BigManMalone: meh... that's a whole lot of nuthin'.

@2 replies: yours is a poorly thought out post that is barely an argument at all....

@Lex Steers: "Rights, by their very nature, can not compell another to action..."

@2 replies: oh yeah and as for "entitlement"....

@2 replies: "No it's not. Period.

@WestwoodDenizen: quite right. i was aware of the hyperbole even as i was typing it... : )

@WestwoodDenizen: absolutely... there definitely is a childlike, "hotwheels" appeal to just watching thingies move! : )

@The Werewolf: actually, maybe a better explanation would be that there is an appeal because of how difficult it is to make a "machine".

@Tyrunn: well they're trying to make it so that stores or you will be charged for the privelege of buying and selling used games. either by "taxing" each sale with the proceeds going back to the original publisher or with things like THQs policy where a multiplayer component is non-transferable so that the first…

@The Werewolf: same appeal as leica or the antikathera mechanism or clockwork stuff of all kinds... there is an appeal in clunky and mechanical.