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when there are better prizes to be won in the Vale

Jon's just as dead after DWD as Bran was after he got pushed out the window in chapter one. As dead as Bran & Rickon were after Theon showed off their burnt bodies in Winterfell. As dead as Arya was when "the axe took her in the back of the head" at the Red Wedding.

What you're ignoring is that Sansa knowingly put herself in that position. That's why it made no sense for the character and upset people.

(who is in charge of security at that place?)

I love how people find reasons for disliking Ned Stark just because he "lost out."

Does anyone think that Davos knew what was going to happen before he left?

they betrayed and blackwashed the very essence of his character right when they had him kill his own kin.

you can't label every story as 'boring' with as many arcs as there are, and the best- Greyjoys, for example, Tyrion's long journey and the introduction of the Griffs- have been either axed or simplified or butchered

The show producers sacrificed the values of Book IV/V by fasttracking through stuff/ignoring key characters like Aegon Targaryen/Tristayne Martell/the lot.

GRRM said he's hoping to have it done before the next season.

I do not expect to ever see a seventh book, and he already said that he will probably need more than two more books.

Realistically, by the way, AFFC and ADWD could have easily covered two seasons.

The Sansa thing could work if she used anything she learned from LF

I think they've very much misunderstood their audience, somehow deciding that what was so successful for the first four seasons was in danger of alienating the masses.

I was totally on team Stannis before this.

I think GRRM is a sadist and wants to take what you hold dear and crush it.

Maybe.

I guess show Sam is not going to Oldtown.

Alliser Thorne has been the most visible of the anti-Jon faction. He provided the rationale in this episode. Is he going to be a Brutus, along with Olly?

It can't be both "telegraphed" and "unearned". It can be telegraphed and hacky; but if they are telegraphing it, then it's definitely set up and earned.