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The OP did not say cheating was good or even acceptable, no matter how many times they say that was her point. I think there are probably more than a few people on this thread who have been cheated on, it’s the only thing that would make their posts make sense.

JFC you’re full of yourself. I can’t speak to what someone else said but you seem fine doing so. I am going to copypasta so there is no confusion,

The disconnect here is that you’re arguing the point as though the opposition is arguing that cheating is “good” or “ok”...that isn’t the argument at all.

I mean, I think analyzing the reasons for human behavior rather than simply, or exclusively, qualifying that behavior is a big part of liberal/progressive thought and values—it’s crucial. When someone steals, you don’t just chop of their hands and go about your day, you analyze and address the circumstances which

fwiw i know your a regular on here but it does seem that you either misunderstood or you’re being obtuse.

That’s not the part I took issue with, it’s the reflexive vilification without an exploration of the circumstances that lead a person to make a particular decision.

Regardless of what Dan Savage thinks, you are completely missing the point here. The point isn’t that the cheating is political in some way, it’s that most people exist within social constructs that have the potential to make it really difficult to be honest with themselves, let alone those around you. Immediately

I ended up dismissing someone who kept saying I was saying things, I wasn’t. There are a number of people doing that in this thread.

Right. I feel like some people are being willfully obtuse on this one.

That’s how I read the post as well, which is why I said I was hoping this situation would open a larger dialog. But man people are defensive. I don’t see gloriaestefanwasright advocating for people to cheat or excusing their behavior.

Okay. Clearly you are part of the problem.

Right and the anger exists because people are CONSTANTLY pressured into thinking they MUST be monogamous. So much so that they agree to it even when they don’t think they are capable. This is the start - it comes BEFORE the lie.

I’ve been thinking that it would be great if this opened a greater dialog on monogamy and relationships. I mean how many of these people are Christians who think that marriage is between one man and one woman? I am betting the number is pretty high. Clearly what we say, is not what we do.

Newsflash - people have a really hard time being in long term monogamous relationships and society’s weird, unnecessary and CONSTANT shaking finger makes it harder for people to just be able to admit that to themselves, and find relationships that DO work for them. But SURPRISE when you guilt them into obeying