The hate stems from their Apple like marketing, shady engineering environment, and Elon Musk’s egomaniacal behavior. I could give a rat’s ass if the car is good when the whole Tesla mantra and ecosystem reeks of elitist douchebaggery.

Careful. You may be deemed by the Teslarati to be critical of Tesla and “Elon”. Be aware that the sun shines from “Elon’s” lower regions and any suggestion that this is not the case will result in huge hissy fits from the Teslarati.

I hate stancing as much as the next guy but, I hate cops targeting modded cars even more. They’re our brother Jalops even if we don’t approve of how they modded their cars. I certainly respect stancers more than the hoard of people on this site who can’t even change their own brake pads.

5.7 seconds on a car from 2000 is...bad? I want whatever you people are smoking.

Seeing the video caption that says the F35 program is the first program to use NIC (Neck Injury Criteria) in evaluation, I did some research.

Oh, the wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’...

what a bunch of left wing rubbish.

Did they ever consider that all of the technology that makes cheap cars as safe as they are wouldn’t exist without the development they had on expensive cars?

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Drive an old, simple diesel. Convert it to run on biodiesel. I’ll be able to make my own fuel and the easiest way to keep a car maintained in those conditions is to have one that needs minimal maintenance.

One time I drove a Ford Focus ST really hard. I decided—even though I consider myself a good driver—that it was too much for me and I was going to get in trouble. The Carrera GT is too much for nearly all mortals. If you get into one, you better not have any delusions or it will quickly notify you of your error.…

the biggest thing about driving stick is getting to feel the gear catching when you engage and disengage the clutch and are trading off clutch for accelerator pressure, not sure how a video game is supposed to mimic that tactile feedback but good luck fahey!

Unattended consequences the story of every government program ever. They should mind their own damn business and stop meddling in people's life.

And everyone complains about minivans power doors being too slow, and breaking, and being expensive to fix etc...

If it’s like (or based on) the ICCT report I read the other day when this started blowing up there’s not really enough data to draw a conclusion. Anonymous test performers on uncontrolled routes with cars of differing mileage/maintenance.

Good faith? you mean like the guys who bought D90s, D110s, and early Defenders? I’m sorry, buddy, evidence says that the government will take them then say “oops” rather then abide by a good-faith argument.

It’s funny that car companies can actually kill their customers through negligence and not face any serious consequences but if you try to get around an emissions regulation it’s going to lead to probable criminal prosecution. This is the world we live in.

Buy cars now - we are on the verge of entering another dark ages. In addition to this fiasco, we’ve got the upcoming EPA 2025 regs, the proposed pedestrian standards, the recent automatic braking rules, L4 V2V standards (undated as of yet) and the TUV (Germany) proposed autonomous standards, and the new NHTSA safety…

I’m thinking that line in the FMEA reads about like this:

The statistics drastically overstate the effect, since if someone has detectable blood alcohol levels, then the accident is determined to be "due to alcohol". There's very little evidence that our extremely severe drunk driving laws are any better at preventing car accidents than relatively lax ones (except that…