The 3.0L Supra starts at $55K, the 3.0L Z4 starts at $66K and has many more options to go higher from there.

It’s like you guys have never seen a vehicle with street tires to get a good EPA rating before.  The tires that came on my 4Runner were a joke.  Then I upgraded them.

Is your recommendation that they ship the truck equipped with snow tires by default from the factory? Does any manufacturer do this?

I’d love the GTI if I could just get over the moody German dependability. I had an ‘02.5 Jetta 1.8T that was impressive for the price, but every “is anybody else having this problem” thread on VWVortex happened to my car and I just got tired of figuring out which were the good years (as opposed to Toyota/Honda where…

I’m not sure where the LC’s will bottom out but they’re still in the depreciation cycle, my ‘21 convertible with 7K miles traded back to the dealer at $78.5K and sold in the $83's. But that’s Denver in December. These cars under $60K start to become a crazy bargain.

The LC500 you see above represents 10 years of payments and good / lucky car decisions.

Dude. I had an FJ, I wrote the buy/sell guide on FJCruiserForums. Sold it to buy a 4Runner. Now I help run the big annual Toyota offroading event in Ouray CO. If you plan on offroading your 4Runner, you should definitely come out.

Wife is a Navy E7 and hates Mustangs for the same reason.  If Raptors were a bit cheaper the Army guys could buy them before E5 lol

They can afford to build their own Supra. We know they can make awesome, non-boring cars. The LC and LFA prove that.

Because sometimes you want to drive a nicer car than the airman who just made E3 but is still living in base housing.

1. The manufacturers really need to get the “markup games” in check or they’re going to piss off an entire generation of buyers. I paid cash two months ago for an LC500 and while I didn’t expect the process to be the CU volleyball team wearing togas feeding me grapes, it sure as hell didn’t need to be “go through this…

“close enough to $60K to not fully list the actual amount of $59,495"

Bought the real MKV Supra last year:

In 2012 I bought a ‘06 Honda S2000 for $18K. In 2017 I sold it for $21K and bought a ‘00 NSX for $67K. In 2021 I sold the NSX for $154K on BringATrailer:

The federal government should create a law legalizing manufacturer-owned stores in all 50 states — thereby Supremacy Clause’ing away all the state laws creating franchise dealerships — and put the franchise dealership model out of business.

The fast Lexus isn’t pretty because it doesn’t have to be. If you want the pretty Lexus:

I’ve been to the Lexus Performance Driving School a couple of times, the LC500 is a capable car but you can reach its limits. The first time I rode in an LFA I thought “I am the limiting factor of this car”. So I agree, it’s nice to have a car that isn’t so easy to do stupid things in.

I’m on my second LC500, my buddy has an LFA (only the 2nd I’ve seen).

“Infinite gears?  So infinite power?”

The ADL is effectively a speech regulating entity. Speech we all abhor, absolutely, but still speech.