There are plenty of articles there, the vast majority of everything on this case is speculation, but it is fact that she has XY chromosomes, and 3x the amount of testosterone as a woman (or an average amount for a man), plus her bone structure is that of a man’s.

Internal testicles are debatable, but the NYT has said…

The fastest two times were of Eastern Bloc women in 1983 and 1980, at 1.53.22 and 1.53.43. The third fastest was a Kenyan, Jelimo, in 2008 at 154.01 and Semenaya in 2018 was 154.25. The next fastest after that was 1.54.44 - a Cuban woman in 1989.

Yeah I am not pretending to know much about the sport. I am just saying “she is the Michael Phelps of track and field” is not really a good comparison.

They’re not singling her out. There are other women with her condition, and recently they finished in the top three spots in a race. I forget their names but they are also from African countries.

The current women’s 800m record was set by a Czhechoslovakian woman in 1983 and the Olympic record was set by a Soviet woman in 1980; they were almost certainly on steroids and may have had very high testosterone levels themselves, like many women athletes from the other side of the Iron Curtain during that time.

Oh wow another stupid comment what a shocker.

No one cares what you think about anything. 

Yeah, “bs arguments” like the fact that she has internal testes, no womb, no uterus and 3x the amount of testosterone for normal women.

What Diana conveniently fails to tell you is

1) Caster Semenya has XY chromosomes. As a result, she has testes (internal) but no ovaries. How her entire article could fail to mention those important facts is beyond me. The reality is we have to separate men’s and women’s sports into two categories if we are going to…

Then why do they not just create one class of sport, no men or women division? As it stands, the mens category is essentially the open league (nobody is trying to keep people out of mens sports?), while the womens category is restricted. They have to draw that restriction line somewhere and they have made a ruling as…

Well, for one thing, this is nothing like the 2000s Deadspin comment section. In the 2000s Barry Petchesky said fat girls give great h*** because they have no other redeeming qualities and he got HIRED for gold like that. (Obviously this is all well in the past, he’s apologized, etc.)

So the women should compete with men? They are all human, why bother categorizing them at all!

She has XY chromosomes (if she didn’t the most recent ruling would not be applicable to her), so her being a woman is a lot more controversial than you are letting on.

Caster Semenya isn’t trans, but glad someone can openly acknowledge that’s where this is all headed.

Or — OR — the fact that an extremely liberal commentariat that’s almost always in agreement with the writers has had significant dissent on this subject should give you pause and make you consider if maybe just maybe YOU’RE the one who’s wrong here.

I’m saying that, if you want to separate by sex, then draw a line. But if you don’t want to draw the line, then just have no separate category for women.

She has high testosterone and a Y chromosome, and people who think that means she shouldn’t race against women are “abhorrent”? I am in favor of getting rid of all women’s sports, but short of that the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it’s creepy how you guys all think anyone who disagrees with you is morally evil

She adds that “a woman can be a woman and still not be permitted to participate in women’s sports.”

Diana, do you have a line for female athletics you’d like to put forth? I personally think that someone with elevated levels of testosterone and a Y chromosome probably should not be allowed to race other women, but is welcome to race in the men’s division. Where do you draw the line?

This article spends a lot of time attempting to diminish the role testosterone plays in Athletics and implies that it does not give an advantage to Semenya. I’m highly skeptical, given testosterone’s use as a PED going back to the East Germany days. If it is true that Semenya has no advantage, then why not allow all…