While this is annoying and something I have noticed myself (more-so because I can’t connect my new iPhone to my new MBP solely with the cables provided in each box), I would hardly call it “user-hostile”. At least you can use the EarPods with the MBP with the cables/adapters that come with each (lightning > 3.5MM). …

Haha thanks. My actual name is Jim. My actual face is not Dwight.

lol nice try - I am not the one who bailed out of the dialogue because the mental gymnastics to support my own hypocritical arguments were too exhausting.

fwiw I rented an apartment a few months ago that included a month free. The price advertised to me was the net effective price, but it was clearly explained on the website it was posted on. I expected them to just charge me the net effective price every month for the first year, but instead, they gave me the first…

It’s gross because people put their bare feet on them! They also sometimes take shits on them.

Not surprising - it’s difficult to defend hypocrisy.

I sort of agree with you - but I just can’t see past the “Techbro” and “dudebro”s - this is what I am talking about. How is that not alienating? To me - and this may not be your intention, but this is how it reads to me - it sounds like you have some problem with guys in tech, that you are irritated by them, so much…

Thank you for finally engaging honestly in this discussion. I’ve read through both articles. Here’s a quote from the NPR article:

Thank you! That’s a great point about Google providing the forum for this memo/essay/whatever and maybe even encouraging employees to use it, and then turning around and firing them for opening what they felt was an honest discussion.

It was posted to an internal mailing list - I don’t work at Google so I can’t comment on what’s standard there, but it didn’t sound to me like he posted it somewhere totally inappropriate - it was shared throughout the company and Silicon Valley before the media latched on and it gained national traction.

It is amazing to me that you can write something like that and not stop and recognize your own hypocrisy. Maybe in your world most racists are white and most sexists are men because you dismiss all racism from non-whites and all sexism from women. When you only acknowledge racism from white people and sexism from…

My understanding is that the internal sharing of ideas is commonplace at Google. That’s what he did, in the hopes that management may acknowledge its own biases and correct them before those like him jumped ship. If you feel that just *his* thoughts had no place being shared, well that’s the exact kind of…

I mean he even says he acknowledges sexism and calls it out, so it sounds like you’ve projected your own bias onto him while reading his paper. It’s that kind of knee-jerk reaction to label those with opposing views as “sexist” and “racist” that he’s referring to when he talks about the authoritarian progressive echo…

Sigh. I am very interested. I am interested in any and all explanations. It’s those trashing this guy’s essay who are close-minded.

Read his essay, then I am happy to discuss.

You make an interesting point:

No, I did not think that asking me to read was condescending - I think it was condescending to assert that I was “confused.”

Come on, I can’t tell if you are being intentionally dense - you sound more intelligent than this - you have to know that telling someone they are “confused” is condescending, right? I didn’t take offense to it - I’m used to it in these kinds of “debates” - I’m simply using it as an example of the kind of culture…

That’s all great and I completely believe you. I believe that women are capable of great things, just like men. People seem to be misunderstanding what he’s saying - it’s not about being suited for the work. It’s about explaining discrepancies in gender distribution. And by the way, it goes both ways - there are…

You should read the essay if you are confused by all this.