““What would happen if you were going on a five-year journey and you’re trying to not only explore but also maybe introduce other people to this way of thinking,” Lin said.”

Pretty sure we had this discussion back on Monday.

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As long as there are no immediate logic fails like red matter or magic death negating blood, I’ll be content.

The jaded hipsters have taken over everywhere.

You’ve summed it up rather nicely. :)

Honestly, their enjoyability isn’t the issue. It’s their quientissential Star Trek-ness. NuTrek is sorely lacking in it. That said, I really, really love this cast so I hope they keep making movies. Maybe one day they’ll finally find their feet vis-a-vis STness.

I would watch such a movie. Prefer if it didn’t wear ST drag though...

Honestly McCoy and Uhura are vastly improved characters (which has more than a little to do with the actors).

Well, to be fair it’s Abrams fault and then he dropped that shit like it was hot. Poor Justin Lin.

Actually the reviews from critics are starting to sound more realistic. CJA basically said it’s not as good as 4 and 5 and someone over on AICN said it isn’t even SW.

This feels like the most balanced, even-handed review I’ve seen so far. It’s clear that you enjoyed the movie but not to the point where there’s just a lot of pandering. I’m actually looking forward to seeing it now. Thank you.

Dude. It’s always worth it to point out when people are asshats. Sorry you don’t like having your nose rubbed in your hypocrisy but the shoe fits your foot.

Critically acclaimed, made less money than Pacific Rim. Americans don’t like hard SF. CGI extravaganzas? Yes. Hard SF no?

Well you’d be wrong about me being wrong. Actors are wooden all the time. This doesn’t mean that the director was bad. GL may not be a good director but neither is JJ. The latter’s movies are watchable in spite of him and, yeah, in JJ’s case specifically the ST writers were his guys so...

Neither. Like I said in my response to your OP. I’m sick of all the “PT sucks” and “TFA = Good because not by Lucas”. I’m sorry if you don’t like what I’m saying but being an anything, including a fan, requires accepting things as they are. The PT may not be good but they are SW. I like them because I’m a SW fan.

Look you either said you were a SW fan or you didn’t. Make up your mind and let me know.

You’re full of shit. Being an anything means being consistent. Being a true fan of something means you acknowledge it’s flaws but own it up with the greater whole. The PT aren’t perfect but they are Star Wars. No amount of people not liking them is going to change that.

Nope. I’m afraid that’s you.

That means you didn’t like the Matrix Trilogy. Hate is your word. IMO hate =/= didn’t like. Frankly Revolutions is criminally underrated. No one ever gets the fact that for the movie to work, no one has escaped the Matrix, which is logical. If I were the machines I would definitely layer the failure proofing. (And for…